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How to citeComment citer : Rehr, JP. The Registry of the “Great Inquisition” at Toulouse, 1245-46: Edition of BM Toulouse MS609 (doc. MS609-0424). http://medieval-inquisition.huma-num.fr/documents/MS609-0424, acc. 2020-09-18

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  • Jean Duvernoy, ed.,  Le manuscrit 609 de la bibliothèque municipale de Toulouse. Lauragais 1245-1246, 1253,  http://jean.duvernoy.free.fr/text/listetexte.htm,  accessed 2017-08-01: 66-67
  • Austin Evans, ed.,  Interrogatoires subis par des hérétiques albigeois par-devant frère Bernard de Caux, inquisiteur, de 1245 à 1253,  BX4890 B47 1255g , Butler Library, Columbia University, New York
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  Anno a quo supra IIIIo Ydus marcii.1 Bertrandus de Quiders, miles , testis iuratus dixit quod vidit Garsendam, aviam ipsius testis, et Gualhardam, amitam testis, hereticas, stantes publice apud Mansum Sanctarum Puellarum in domibus propriis earum et ibi ipse dum erat puer, Ve annorum vel circa. Comedit pluries panem et nuces et alia comestibilia que dabant ipsi testis dicte heretice, sed non adoravit eas. Et fuit ante primum adventum crucesignatorum..

Item. Dixit quod Otho de Quiders, frater ipsius testis, fuit hereticatus in obitu, ipse testis absente, in domo hereticorum quem tenebant heretici tunc publice apud Mansum. Et fuit eodem tempore. 2

Item. Vidit apud b Fuxum in quadam domo de qua nescit cuius erat duos hereticos quorum nomina ignorat. Et vidit ibi cum eis Na Comptors de Villamuro, quic postea fuit heretica , et plures alios de quibus non recolat. Sed ipse testis non adoravit dictos hereticos nec vidit alios adoraverunt. Et sunt XXVII anni vel circa.

 Item. Vidit apud Fuxum in domo Arnaldi cuius cognomen ignorat, iuxta domum den Matras, Na Comptors  de Villa Muro predictam et Bigordanam et sociam suam, hereticas, et alios hereticos de quibus non recolit. Et ibi ipse testis ter flexis genibus adoravit dictos hereticos dicendo, “Benedicite probi homines, orate Deum pro me.”« Benedicite probi homines, orate Deum pro me. » Et fuit eodem tempore.

Dixit etiam quod ipse testis vidit tunc Willelmum Sancii de Appamiis, qui modo est monachus Albus , cum hereticis apud Fuxum, sed nescit in qua domo. Et omnes et ipse testis adoraverunt dictos hereticos et audierunt predicationem eorum.

Item. Vidit apud Mansum in domo Willelmi Vitalis Petrum Bolbena et socium suum, hereticos. Et vidit ibi cum eis Willelmum Vitalem predictum et Seguram, uxorem eius. Et omnes et ipse testis adoraverunt ibi dictos hereticos. Et sunt XIIII anni vel circa.

Item. Vidit quater in dicta domo hereticos, [F°30r]  scilicet Bertrandum Martini et socium suum, hereticos, bis; et Willelmum Vitalem, diachonum hereticorum, de Beceda et socium suum, hereticos, similiter bis. Et vidit ibi cum d e dictis hereticis per vices Iordanum de Manso seniorem; et Bernardum de Quiders, fratrem  fipsius testis, et dominam Metam, matrem ipsius testis; et Finas, sororem ipsius testis; et Guarnerium seniorem; et Arnaldum de Canast; et Poncium Gran; et Petrum Vitalem; et Companhat; et Arnaldum Godalh; et Arnaldum Donatum; et Petrum Willelmi;   W. Donati; et Bernardum Aichart; et Willelmum de Canast-Brus; et Petrum Amelii; et dictum Willelmum Vitalem et Seguram,  uxorem eius. Et omnes et ipse testis qualibet vice adoraverunt dictos hereticos et audierunt predicationem eorum. Et sunt XII anni vel circa.

 Item. Vidit apud Mansum in domo Bernardi Barravi quam conducebat Bernardus de Quiders, frater ipsius testis, duos  hereticos quorum nomina ignorat. Et vidit ibi cum eis Iordanum de Manso, militem ; et dictum Bernardum de Quiders;  fratrem ipsius testis, Willelmum Vitalem; Arnaldum de Canast; Poncium Gran; Gualhardum Amelii et Petrum Amelii, fratres;  Compgan; Willelmum de Canast-Brus; et alios plures de quibus non recolit. Et omnes et ipse testis adoraverunt dictos hereticos  et audierunt predicationem eorum et acceperunt pacem ab eis. Et fuit eodem tempore.

Item. Vidit apud Mansum in domo  Willelmi de Canast-Brus Petrum Bolbena et Petrum Petit socium suum, hereticos. Et vidit ibi cum eis Arnaldum de Canast; et dictum Willelmum de Canast et matrem eiusdem Willelmi; et alios de quibus non recolit. Et omnes et ipse testis adoraverunt dictos hereticos. Et fuit eodem tempore.

Item. Vidit apud Mansum in domo Petri Faure, qui postea fuit hereticus , propedictos hereticos. Et vidit ibi cum eis dictum Petrum Faure et quendam alium quem non recolit qui venit cum ipso teste. Sed non recolit si adoravit vel ibi vidit adorare. Et sunt XV anni vel circa.

Item. Vidit apud Mansum in domo de Na Richa Raimundum de Manso, filium dicte Riche, et Donatum socium suum, hereticos. Et vidit ibi cum eis dictam Richam. Sed ipse testis non adoravit dictos hereticos nec vidit adorare. Et sunt X anni vel circa.

Item. Vidit apud Mansum in domo den Companh duos hereticos de quibus non recolat. Et vidit ibi cum eis dictum Companh et matrem eius. Et ibi ipse testis adoravit dictos hereticos sed non vidit adorare.  Et sunt XII anni vel circa. Querere infra postea Sanctum Martinum de Landa finem huis confessione et alias confessiones de Manso Sanctarum Puellarum quia tradite fuirent oblivioni

  • a  supp. et die
  • b exp. Mansum
  • c ms. et
  • d exp. eis
  • e  supp. cum
  • f exp. eius
  • g exp. h

[24] Anno a quo supra IIIIo Ydus marcii.1 Bertrandus de Quiders, miles , testis iuratus dixit quod vidit Garsendam, aviam ipsius[25] testis, et Gualhardam, amitam testis, hereticas, stantes publice apud Mansum Sanctarum Puellarum in domibus propriis earum et[26] ibi ipse dum erat puer, Ve annorum vel circa. Comedit pluries panem et nuces et alia comestibilia que dabant[27] ipsi testis dicte heretice, sed non adoravit eas. Et fuit ante primum adventum crucesignatorum.. Item. Dixit quod Otho de[28] Quiders, frater ipsius testis, fuit hereticatus in obitu, ipse testis absente, in domo hereticorum quem tenebant heretici tunc publice[29] apud Mansum. Et fuit eodem tempore. 2 Item. Vidit apud b Fuxum in quadam domo de qua nescit cuius erat duos[30] hereticos quorum nomina ignorat. Et vidit ibi cum eis Na Comptors de Villamuro, quic postea fuit heretica , et plures[31] alios de quibus non recolat. Sed ipse testis non adoravit dictos hereticos nec vidit alios adoraverunt. Et sunt XXVII anni vel circa. [32] Item. Vidit apud Fuxum in domo Arnaldi cuius cognomen ignorat, iuxta domum den Matras, Na Comptors[33] de Villa Muro predictam et Bigordanam et sociam suam, hereticas, et alios hereticos de quibus non recolit. Et ibi ipse testis[34] ter flexis genibus adoravit dictos hereticos dicendo, “Benedicite probi homines, orate Deum pro me.”« Benedicite probi homines, orate Deum pro me. » Et fuit eodem tempore. Dixit[35] etiam quod ipse testis vidit tunc Willelmum Sancii de Appamiis, qui modo est monachus Albus , cum hereticis apud Fuxum, sed ne[36] scit in qua domo. Et omnes et ipse testis adoraverunt dictos hereticos et audierunt predicationem eorum. Item. Vidit apud Mansum in domo Willelmi[37] Vitalis Petrum Bolbena et socium suum, hereticos. Et vidit ibi cum eis Willelmum Vitalem predictum et Seguram, uxorem eius. Et omnes et ipse testis[38] adoraverunt ibi dictos hereticos. Et sunt XIIII anni vel circa. Item. Vidit quater in dicta domo hereticos, [F°30r] [1] scilicet Bertrandum Martini et socium suum, hereticos, bis; et Willelmum Vitalem, diachonum hereticorum, de Beceda et socium suum, hereticos,[2] similiter bis. Et vidit ibi cum d e dictis hereticis per vices Iordanum de Manso seniorem; et Bernardum de Quiders, fratrem[3] fipsius testis, et dominam Metam, matrem ipsius testis; et Finas, sororem ipsius testis; et Guarnerium seniorem; et Arnaldum de[4] Canast; et Poncium Gran; et Petrum Vitalem; et Companhat; et Arnaldum Godalh; et Arnaldum Donatum; et P[etrum] Willelmi; [5] W. Donati; et Bernardum Aichart; et Willelmum de Canast-Brus; et P[etrum] Amelii; et dictum Willelmum Vitalem et Seguram, [6] uxorem eius. Et omnes et ipse testis qualibet vice adoraverunt dictos hereticos et audierunt predicationem eorum. Et sunt XII anni vel circa. [7] Item. Vidit apud Mansum in domo Bernardi Barravi quam conducebat Bernardus de Quiders, frater ipsius testis, duos[8] hereticos quorum nomina ignorat. Et vidit ibi cum eis Iordanum de Manso, militem ; et dictum Bernardum de Quiders; [9] fratrem ipsius testis, Willelmum Vitalem; Arnaldum de Canast; Poncium Gran; Gualhardum Amelii et Petrum Amelii, fratres;[10] Compgan; Willelmum de Canast-Brus; et alios plures de quibus non recolit. Et omnes et ipse testis adoraverunt dictos hereticos[11] et audierunt predicationem eorum et acceperunt pacem ab eis. Et fuit eodem tempore. Item. Vidit apud Mansum in domo[12] Willelmi de Canast-Brus Petrum Bolbena et Petrum Petit socium suum, hereticos. Et vidit ibi cum eis Arnaldum de Canast; et[13] dictum W[illelmum] de Canast et matrem eiusdem Willelmi; et alios de quibus non recolit. Et omnes et ipse testis adoraverunt dictos[14] hereticos. Et fuit eodem tempore. Item. Vidit apud Mansum in domo Petri Faure, qui postea fuit hereticus , propedictos hereticos.[15] Et vidit ibi cum eis dictum Petrum Faure et quendam alium quem non recolit qui venit cum ipso teste. Sed non recolit si adoravit[16] vel ibi vidit adorare. Et sunt XV anni vel circa. Item. Vidit apud Mansum in domo de Na Richa Raimundum de[17] Manso, filium dicte Riche, et Donatum socium suum, hereticos. Et vidit ibi cum eis dictam Richam. Sed ipse testis non adoravit dictos hereticos[18] nec vidit adorare. Et sunt X anni vel circa. Item. Vidit apud Mansum in domo den Companh duos hereticos de quibus[19] non recolat. Et vidit ibi cum eis dictum Companh et matrem eius. Et ibi ipse testis adoravit dictos hereticos sed non vidit adorare.[20] Et sunt XII anni vel circa. Querere infra postea Sanctum Martinum de Landa finem huis confessione et alias confessiones de Manso Sanctarum Puellarum quia tradite fuirent oblivioni

  • a  supp. et die
  • b exp. Mansum
  • c ms. et
  • d exp. eis
  • e  supp. cum
  • f exp. eius
  • g exp. h

Year as above, 4th Ides of March. The sworn witness Bertrand de Quiders, knight, said that he saw Garsen, grandmother of the witness, and Galharda, aunt of the witness, heretics, living openly at Mas-Saintes-Puelles in their own house. While he was a child of about 5 years he ate there many times, eating bread, almonds, and other foods the aforesaid heretics offered him, but he did not adore them. This was before the first crusaders came.

Item. He said that his brother Odo de Quiders was hereticated on death, the witness was not there, in the home of heretics that the heretics had publicly at the time at Mas-Saintes-Puelles. This was the same period.

Item. He saw two heretics whose names he did not know in some house of whose he did not know at Foix, and he saw there with them Na Comptors de Villamuro, who was later a heretic, and many others he did not recall. But the witness did not adore the aforesaid heretics nor saw others adore. This was about 27 years ago.

Item. He saw at Foix in the house of Arnald, whose last name he did not know, next to the house of den Matras, the aforesaid Na Comptors de Villamuro and Bigordana and her companion, heretics, and other heretics he did not recall. The witness adored the aforesaid heretics there, bending at the knee three times saying, "Bless me, good men, pray to God for me." This was the same period.

He said as well that he saw Guilhem Sancii of Pamiers, Ariège, who is now is Albus the monk, with heretics at Foix, but he did not know in which house. The witness and the others adored the aforesaid heretics and listened to their preaching.

Item. He saw at Mas-Saintes-Puelles in the house of Guilhem Vidal Peire Bolvena and his companion, heretics, and he saw there with them Guilhem Vidal and his wife Segura. Everyone including the witness adored the aforesaid heretics there. This was about 14 years ago.

Item. He saw often heretics in the aforementioned house, namely Bertrand Marti and his companions, heretics, two times, and Guilhem Vidal, diachonum hereticorum of Labécède and his companion, heretics, twice as well, and he saw there with the heretics Jordan del Mas, Bernard de Quiders, brother of the witness, and domina Meta, mother of the witness, Finas, sister of the witness, Garnier senior, Arnald de Canast, Pons Gran, Peire Vidal, Companh, Arnald Godalh, Arnald Donat, Peire Guilhem, W. Donat, Guilhem Canast-Bru, Peire Amelh, and the aforementioned Guilhem Vidal and Segura, his wife. The owitness and the others adored the aforesaid heretics at least once and listened to their preaching. This was about 12 years ago.

Item. He saw at Mas-Saintes-Puelles in the house of Bernard Barrau two heretics whose names he did not know, who were brought there by Bernard de Quiders, brother of the witness. He saw there with them Jordan del Mas, knight, and the aforesaid Bernard de Quiders, brother of the witness, Guilhem Vidal, Arnald Canast, Pons Gran, Galhard Amelh and Peire Amelh, brothers, Companh, Guilhem Canast-Bru, and many others whom he did not recall. The witness and the others adored the said heretics and listened to their preaching and accepted blessing of peace from them. This was the same period.

Item. He saw at the house of Guilhem Canast-Bru at Mas-Saintes-Puelles Peire Bolvena and his companion Peire Petit, heretics, and he saw there with them Arnald de Canast and the aforesaid Guilhem Canast-Bru, and Guilhem's mother, and others he did not recall. The witness and the others adored the aforesaid heretics. This was the same period.

Item. He saw at Mas-Saintes-Puelles in the house of Peire Faure, who later was a heretic, the abaovesaid heretics. He saw there with them said Peire Faure and one other whom he did not recall but who came with him. But he did not recall if he adored or if he saw adoring there. This was about 15 years ago.

Item. He saw at Mas-Saintes-Puelles in the house of Peirona na Riqua Raimund del Mas, son of said Riqua, and his companion Donat Tersola, heretics. He saw there with them the aforesaid Riqua, but he did not adore the aforesaid heretics, nor saw adoring. This was about 10 years ago.

Item. He saw at Mas-Saintes-Puelles in the house of Companh Gaufred two heretics whose names he did not recall and he saw there with them Companh himself and his mother. The witness adored, but he did not see others adoring there. This was about 12 years ago.

Find in here, after Saint-Martin-Lalande, the end of this confession and other confessions from Mas-Saintes-Puelles, as they were forgotten.

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  • SourceSource: BM Toulouse MS 609
  • Shelf Mark/FolioCote/Folio: 29v-30r
  • Document DateDate de document: 1246-03-12
  • GroupGroupe: Mas-Saintes-Puelles (1)

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  • Arnaud de Canast
  • Arnaud Donat
  • Arnaud Godalh
  • Bernard Aichart
  • Bernard Barrau
  • Bernard de Quiriès
  • Bertrand de Quiriès
  • Bertrand Marti
  • Bigordana
  • Companh Gaufred
  • Donat
  • Galhard Amelh
  • Galharda del Mas
  • Garnier senior
  • Guilhelma Gaufred
  • Guilhelmeta del Mas
  • Guilhem de Canast Bru
  • Guilhem Sans, Cistercian
  • Guilhem Vidal
  • Guilhem Vidal
  • heretics not named
  • heretics, names not remembered
  • 2 male heretics, names not remembered
  • 2 unknown male heretics
  • Jordan del Mas
  • na Comptors de Villemur
  • na Finas
  • na Garsen
  • Odo de Quiriès
  • many others unrecalled
  • Peire Amelh
  • Peire Boulbène
  • Peire Faure de Montauriol
  • Peire Guilhem
  • Peire Petit
  • Peire Vidal
  • Peirona de Canast
  • Peirona de na Riqua
  • Pons Gran
  • Raimund de na Riqua
  • Segura Vidal
  • W. Donat

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  • domus of Arnaud at Foixdomus de Arnaud à Foix
  • domus of Bernard Barraudomus de Bernard Barrau
  • domus of Companh Gaufreddomus de Companh Gaufred
  • domus of Guilhem Canast-Brusdomus de Guilhem Canast-Brus
  • domus of Guilhem and Segura Vidaldomus de Guilhem et Segura Vidal
  • domus of unnamed heretics at Mas-Saintes-Puellesdomus des hérétiques anonymes au Mas-Saintes-Puelles
  • domus of Na Garsendomus de Na Garsen
  • domus of Peire Fauredomus de Peire Faure
  • domus of Peirona Na Riquadomus de Peirona Na Riqua
  • Foix
  • Pamiers
  • unnamed domus in Foixdomus inconnu à Foix

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