Deposition - Raimunda Bernarda GascDéposition - Raimunda Bernarda Gasc

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How to citeComment citer : Rehr, JP. The Registry of the “Great Inquisition” at Toulouse, 1245-46: Edition of BM Toulouse MS609 (doc. MS609-0242). http://medieval-inquisition.huma-num.fr/documents/MS609-0242, acc. 2020-09-23

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  • Jean Duvernoy, ed.,  Le manuscrit 609 de la bibliothèque municipale de Toulouse. Lauragais 1245-1246, 1253,  http://jean.duvernoy.free.fr/text/listetexte.htm,  accessed 2017-08-01: 52
  • Austin Evans, ed.,  Interrogatoires subis par des hérétiques albigeois par-devant frère Bernard de Caux, inquisiteur, de 1245 à 1253,  BX4890 B47 1255g , Butler Library, Columbia University, New York
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  dicitur quod hec fuit hereticaItem. Anno et die quo supra.1 Raimunda, uxor Willelmi Gasc , 2 testis iurata dixit quod vidit plures hereticos publice manentes apud Mansum. Et sunt L anni vel circa.

Et tunc ipsa testis fuit facta heretica et hereticavit eam Ysarnus de Castrasheretica induta per duos annosEt fuit ibi cum hereticis heretica induta per duos annos et postea fuit gratis conversa ad fidem Catholicam.

Dixit etiam quod Raimunda Germana fuit heretica et Na Segura et Armengart Boera et Ermengart Aycharda.

Item. In domo Petri Cap de Porc vidit duos hereticos quorum nomina ignorat et vidit ibi cum eis Raimundum Alamans  et Bernardum del Mas, militem. Et ipsa testis et alii duo adoraverunt ibi dictos hereticos et audierunt predicationem eorum. Et sunt XII anni vel circa.

 Item. In domo Willelmi Vidal vidit Bertrandum Marti et socium suum, hereticos. Et vidit ibi cum eis Willelmum Vital et Willelmam de Quiders. Et ipsa testis et predicti duo adoraverunt ibi dictos hereticos. Et fuit circa predictum tempus.

Item. Dixit quod credidit hereticos esse bonos homines et veraces et amicos Dei  licet sciret quod ecclesia persequiretur eos. Et sunt L anni quod hoc credidit et sunt XII quod non credidit. Et audivit eos dicentes errores de visibilibus quod deus not feceratea, de hostia sacrata quod no erat corpus Christi, de matrimonio quod non valebat, de carnis resurrectione quod non erat. Et ipsa testis credidit sicut ipsi dicebant. Et fuit confessa aliis inquisitoribus quam confessionem credidit esse veram. Et post illam confessionem non vidit hereticos nec dedit eis aliquid nec misit. Alibi non vidit hereticos nec adoravit nec eorum predicationem audivit. Et reconciliavit eam beatus Dominicus sed postea vidit, adoravit, credidit esse bonos homines. Et habuit cruces ab episcopo Tholosano sed semper portavit cruces coopertas extra domum. Et iuravit et cetera. Testes: qui in confessione Ermengardis.

  • 1  1245-05-20 per MS609-0238
  • 2 Sometimes referred to as Bernarda.

[14] dicitur quod hec fuit hereticaItem. Anno et die quo supra.1 Raimunda, uxor Willelmi Gasc , 2 testis iurata dixit quod vidit plures hereticos publice manentes apud[15] Mansum. Et sunt L anni vel circa. Et tunc ipsa testis fuit facta heretica et hereticavit eam Ysarnus de Castras.[16] heretica induta per duos annosEt fuit ibi cum hereticis heretica induta per duos annos et postea fuit gratis conversa ad fidem Catho[17] licam. Dixit etiam quod Raimunda Germana fuit heretica et Na Segura et Armengart Boera et Ermengart[18] Aycharda. Item. In domo P[etri] Cap de Porc vidit duos hereticos quorum nomina ignorat et vidit ibi cum eis R[aimundum] Alamans [19] et B[ernardum] del Mas, militem. Et ipsa testis et alii duo adoraverunt ibi dictos hereticos et audierunt predicationem eorum. Et sunt XII anni vel circa. [20] Item. In domo Willelmi Vidal vidit Bertrandum Marti et socium suum, hereticos. Et vidit ibi cum eis W[illelmum] Vital et Willelmam de Quiders. Et ipsa[21] testis et predicti duo adoraverunt ibi dictos hereticos. Et fuit circa predictum tempus. Item. Dixit quod credidit hereticos esse bonos homines et veraces et amicos Dei[22] licet sciret quod ecclesia persequiretur eos. Et sunt L anni quod hoc credidit et sunt XII quod non credidit. Et audivit eos[23] dicentes errores de visibilibus quod deus not feceratea, de hostia sacrata quod no erat corpus Christi, de matrimonio[24] quod non valebat, de carnis resurrectione quod non erat. Et ipsa testis credidit sicut ipsi dicebant. Et fuit confessa[25] aliis inquisitoribus quam confessionem credidit esse veram. Et post illam confessionem non vidit hereticos nec dedit eis aliquid nec misit. Alibi non[26] vidit hereticos nec adoravit nec eorum predicationem audivit. Et reconciliavit eam beatus Dominicus sed postea vidit, adoravit, credidit esse bonos[27] homines. Et habuit cruces ab episcopo Tholosano sed semper portavit cruces coopertas extra domum. Et iuravit et cetera. Testes: qui in confessione Ermengardis.

  • 1  1245-05-20 per MS609-0238
  • 2 Sometimes referred to as Bernarda.

It is said that she was a heretic.Item. Year and day as above. The sworn witness Raimunda, wife of Guilhem Gasc, said that she saw heretics many times living openly at Mas-Saintes-Puelles. This was about 50 years ago.

Inducted heretic for two years.During that period she herself was hereticated, and Ysarn de Castres hereticated her. She was there with the heretics as a heretic for two years, and after that was thankfully converted to the Catholic faith.

She said as well that Raimunda German was a heretic, as well as Na Segura, Ermengarde Boer, and Ermengarde Aichart.

Item. She saw two heretics whose names she did not remember in the house of Peire Cap-de-Porc and she saw there with them Raimund Alaman and Bernard del Mas, knight. The witness herself and the other two adored the heretics there and listened to their preaching. This was about 12 years ago.

Item. She saw Bertrand Marti and his companion, heretics, in the house of Guilhem Vidal and she saw there with them Guilhem Vidal and Guilhelma de Quiders. The witness herself and the two stated before adored the heretics there. This was around the same time as stated before.

Item. She said that she believed the heretics to be good men and true and friends of God even though she knew that the Church persecuted them. She first believed 50 years ago, and stopped believing 12 years ago. She heard them speak errors: that God did not make visible things; that the holy host is not the body of Christ; that matrimony is not valid; that there is no bodily resurrection. And the witness herself believed that which they said. All the foregoing was confessed to inquisitors, and that confession she believed to be the truth. After her confession she did not see heretics, nor gave or sent them anything. She did not see heretics anywhere else, nor adored, nor listened to their preaching. She was reconciled by blessed Dominic, however after that she saw, adored, and believed [them] to be good men. She was given crosses by the bishop of Toulouse, but she always covered the crosses when outside the house. She swore, etc. Witnesses: as in the confession of Ermengarde.

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  • SourceSource: BM Toulouse MS 609
  • Shelf Mark/FolioCote/Folio: 22v
  • Document DateDate de document: 1245-05-20
  • GroupGroupe: Mas-Saintes-Puelles (1)

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  • Bernard del Mas senior
  • Bertrand Marti
  • de Guzman
  • Ermengarde Aichart
  • Ermengarde Boer
  • Guilhelmeta del Mas
  • Guilhem Gasc
  • Guilhem Vidal
  • heretics in public (stantes/manantes)
  • 2 unknown male heretics
  • Peire Saint-André
  • Raimund Alaman
  • Raimund de Fauga, bishop of Toulouse
  • Raimunda Bernarda Gasc
  • Raimunda German
  • Segura Vidal
  • Ysarn de Castres

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  • domus of Bernard and Peire de Saint-André (Cap-de-Porc)domus de Bernard et Peire de Saint-André (Cap-de-Porc)
  • domus of Guilhem and Segura Vidaldomus de Guilhem et Segura Vidal
  • open public at Mas-Saintes-Puellesen public à Mas-Saintes-Puelles

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