Deposition - Ermengarde AlamanDéposition - Ermengarde Alaman

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How to citeComment citer : Rehr, JP. The Registry of the “Great Inquisition” at Toulouse, 1245-46: Edition of BM Toulouse MS609 (doc. MS609-0214). http://medieval-inquisition.huma-num.fr/documents/MS609-0214, acc. 2020-10-01

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  • Jean Duvernoy, ed.,  Le manuscrit 609 de la bibliothèque municipale de Toulouse. Lauragais 1245-1246, 1253,  http://jean.duvernoy.free.fr/text/listetexte.htm,  accessed 2017-08-01: 46
  • Austin Evans, ed.,  Interrogatoires subis par des hérétiques albigeois par-devant frère Bernard de Caux, inquisiteur, de 1245 à 1253,  BX4890 B47 1255g , Butler Library, Columbia University, New York
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  vir istius sunt hereticatus in morte ut dicitur. ReisItem. Anno et die quo supra.1 Ermengart, uxor quondam Raimundi Dalamans , testis iurata dixit quod vidit quosdam hereticos   in domo Petri Cap de Porc . Et vidit ibi cum eis Raimundum de Quiders; et Arnaldum Godalh et matrem ipsius Arnaldi; et Bernardum Cap de Porc et uxorem ipsius Bernardi ; et dictum Petrum a Cap de Porc. Sed non recolit si ipsa testis adoravit et non vidit alios adorare nec audivit predicationem eorum. Et sunt XIII anni vel circa.

Item. In dicta domo vidit alia vice duos hereticos quorum nomina ignorat. Et vidit ibi cum eis Willelmum de Rozenge. Et ipsa testis non recolit si adoravit sed credidit quod ibi adoravit dictos hereticos et non vidit alium adorantem.  Et fuit circa predictum tempus.

Item. In domo de Na Segura vidit Bertrandum Marti et socium suum, hereticos. Et vidit ibi cum eis dictam Seguram. Sed ipsa testis non adoravit nec vidit adorare nec audivit predicationem eorum.

Dixit etiam quod credidit hereticos esse bonos sed non veraces nec amicos Die nec audivit eos loquentes de erroribus de visibilibus nec de hostia sacrata nec de matrimonio nec de carnis resurrecione. Alibi non vidit hereticos nec credidit nec adoravit nec dedit nec misit nec eorum predicationem audivit.

Item. Dixit quod adoravit duabus vicibus hereticos b flexis genibus dicendo, “Benedicite”« Benedicite ». Et abiuravit heresim et iuravit et cetera. Testes: B., prior de Manso Sanctarum Puellarum et Silvester, capellanus de Virifolio.

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[3] vir istius sunt hereticatus in morte ut dicitur. ReisItem. Anno et die quo supra.1 Ermengart, uxor quondam Raimundi Dalamans , testis iurata dixit quod vidit quosdam hereticos [4] in domo P[etri] Cap de Porc . Et vidit ibi cum eis R[aimundum] de Quiders; et Arnaldum Godalh et matrem ipsius Arnaldi; et B[ernardum] Cap de[5] Porc et uxorem ipsius B[ernardi] ; et dictum P[etrum] a Cap de Porc. Sed non recolit si ipsa testis adoravit et non vidit alios adorare nec audivit[6] predicationem eorum. Et sunt XIII anni vel circa. Item. In dicta domo vidit alia vice duos hereticos quorum nomina ignorat. Et vidit ibi cum[7] eis W[illelmum] de Rozenge. Et ipsa testis non recolit si adoravit sed credidit quod ibi adoravit dictos hereticos et non vidit alium adorantem.[8] Et fuit circa predictum tempus. Item. In domo de Na Segura vidit Bertrandum Marti et socium suum, hereticos. Et vidit ibi cum eis[9] dictam Seguram. Sed ipsa testis non adoravit nec vidit adorare nec audivit predicationem eorum. Dixit etiam quod credidit hereticos esse bonos[10] sed non veraces nec amicos Die nec audivit eos loquentes de erroribus de visibilibus nec de hostia sacrata nec de matrimonio[11] nec de carnis resurrecione. Alibi non vidit hereticos nec credidit nec adoravit nec dedit nec misit nec eorum predicationem audivit. Item. Dixit quod adoravit[12] duabus vicibus hereticos b flexis genibus dicendo, “Benedicite”« Benedicite ». Et abiuravit heresim et iuravit et cetera. Testes: B., prior de Manso Sanctarum Puellarum et Silvester, capellanus de Virifolio.

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Husband of this one was hereticated in death, it is said. GuiltyItem. Year and day as above. The sworn witness Ermengarde, wife of the late Raimund Alaman, said that she saw certain heretics in the house of Peire Cap-de-Porc and saw there with them Raimund de Quiders, Arnald Godalh, and the mother of the same Arnald, Bernard Cap-de-Porc, the wife of the same Bernard, and the aforesaid Peire Cap-de-Porc. But she did not recall if she herself adored, she did not see the others adore, nor did she listen to their preaching. This was about 14 years ago.

Item. In the above-mentioned home she saw two heretics whose names she did not know, and she saw there with them Guilhem de Rosengue. The witness did not recall if she adored but she believed that sh adored the heretics there, but she did not see any adoring. This was the above-mentioned period.

Item. In the house of Na Segura she saw Bertrand Marti and his companion, heretics, and she saw there with them the aforementioned Segura. But the witness did not adore, nor saw adoring, nor listened to their preaching.

She said that she believed the heretics to be good, but not true nor friends of God. She did not hear them speak errors of visible things, nor the holy host, nor matrimony, nor of bodily resurrection. She did not see heretics anywhere else nor believed, nor adored, nor gave or sent [them anything], nor listened to their preaching.

She said that she adored heretics on two occasions, bending at the knee saying, "Bless me." She abjured heresy and swore, etc. Witnesses: B., prior of Mas-Saintes-Puelles; and Sylvester, chaplain of Verfeil.

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  • SourceSource: BM Toulouse MS 609
  • Shelf Mark/FolioCote/Folio: 20r
  • Document DateDate de document: 1245-05-19
  • GroupGroupe: Mas-Saintes-Puelles (1)

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  • Arnaud Godalh
  • B, prior of Mas-Saintes-Puelles
  • Bernard Saint-André
  • Bertrand Marti
  • Ermengarde Alaman
  • Guilhem de Rosengue
  • heretics not named
  • 2 unknown male heretics
  • mother of Arnaud Godalh
  • Peire Saint-André
  • Perona Saint-André
  • Raimund Alaman
  • Raimund de Quiriès
  • Segura Vidal
  • Sylvester, chaplain of Verfeil

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  • domus of Bernard and Peire de Saint-André (Cap-de-Porc)domus de Bernard et Peire de Saint-André (Cap-de-Porc)
  • domus of Guilhem and Segura Vidaldomus de Guilhem et Segura Vidal

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