Deposition - Guilhem del Mas juniorDéposition - Guilhem del Mas junior

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How to citeComment citer : Rehr, JP. The Registry of the “Great Inquisition” at Toulouse, 1245-46: Edition of BM Toulouse MS609 (doc. MS609-0203). http://medieval-inquisition.huma-num.fr/documents/MS609-0203, acc. 2020-09-29

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  • Jean Duvernoy, ed.,  Le manuscrit 609 de la bibliothèque municipale de Toulouse. Lauragais 1245-1246, 1253,  http://jean.duvernoy.free.fr/text/listetexte.htm,  accessed 2017-08-01: 41
  • Austin Evans, ed.,  Interrogatoires subis par des hérétiques albigeois par-devant frère Bernard de Caux, inquisiteur, de 1245 à 1253,  BX4890 B47 1255g , Butler Library, Columbia University, New York
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 Item. Anno et die predictis1 Willelmus del Mas iunior, filius Willelmi del Mas , testis iuratus dixit quod vidit plures hereticos apud Montem Securum et salutavit eos pluries, sed non adoravit nec vidit adorare. Et sunt VI anni vel circa.

Item2 vidit apud Laurac duos hereticos quos non novit in domo de Pel de Semal et vidit ibi cum eis Fabrissam, matrem ipsius testis; et Iordanum del Mas fratrem suum; et Raimundum de Quiders; et Bernardum Garsias de Laurac; et Iohannem den Arnalda; et plures alios de quibus non recolit, sed non adoravit nec vidit adorare. Et tunc dicti heretici diaxerunt ipse testis quod male faciebat quia non diligebat eos cum omnes alii de genere suo diu dilexissent. Et ipse testis respondit quod nunquam diligeret eos.  Et sunt XVe anni vel circa. 3

Item. Dixit quod vidit Willelmum Forti del Pug de heresi condempnatum qui veniebat de  Tholosa apud Mansum et dictus testis invitavit eum. Et dictis Willelmus comedit cum ipso teste sed dictus testis nesciebat tunc ipsem Willelmum de heresi condempnatum.

Alibi non vidit hereticos nec credidit nunquam esse bonos homines nec habere  bonam fidem nec posse salvari per ipsos nec duxit b nec duci fecit nec aliquid dedit nec misit nec ab eis accepit nec eorum predicationem audivit. Et hec omnia fuit confessus fratri Ferrario inquisitori apud Limos. Et abiuravit heresim et iuravit et cetera. Testes: predicti, excepto fratre Willelmo Pelisso.

  • a exp. u
  • b  supp. nec duxit
  • 1  1245-05-13 per MS609-0196
  • 2 This story is strangely similar in attendees to that told by Guilhem's wife Fauressa in her testimony at MS609-0188-5, although separated by nearly a decade and change of location.
  • 3 cf.   MS609-0188-5, MS609-0207-7  

[20] Item. Anno et die predictis1 W[illelmus] del Mas iunior, filius W[illelmi] del Mas , testis iuratus dixit quod vidit plures hereticos apud Montem[21] Securum et salutavit eos pluries, sed non adoravit nec vidit adorare. Et sunt VI anni vel circa. Item2 vidit apud Laurac duos[22] hereticos quos non novit in domo de Pel de Semal et vidit ibi cum eis Fabrissam, matrem ipsius testis; et Iordanum del[23] Mas fratrem suum; et R[aimundum] de Quiders; et B[ernardum] Garsias de Laurac; et Iohannem den Arnalda; et plures alios de quibus[24] non recolit, sed non adoravit nec vidit adorare. Et tunc dicti heretici diaxerunt ipse testis quod male faciebat quia non dili[25] gebat eos cum omnes alii de genere suo diu dilexissent. Et ipse testis respondit quod nunquam diligeret eos.[26] Et sunt XVe anni vel circa. 3 Item. Dixit quod vidit W[illelmum] Forti del Pug de heresi condempnatum qui veniebat de[27] Tholosa apud Mansum et dictus testis invitavit eum. Et dictis Willelmus comedit cum ipso teste sed dictus testis[28] nesciebat tunc ipsem W[illelmum] de heresi condempnatum. Alibi non vidit hereticos nec credidit nunquam esse bonos homines nec habere [29] bonam fidem nec posse salvari per ipsos nec duxit b nec duci fecit nec aliquid dedit nec misit nec ab eis accepit[30] nec eorum predicationem audivit. Et hec omnia fuit confessus fratri Ferrario inquisitori apud Limos. Et abiuravit[31] heresim et iuravit et cetera. Testes: predicti, excepto fratre Willelmo Pelisso.

  • a exp. u
  • b  supp. nec duxit
  • 1  1245-05-13 per MS609-0196
  • 2 This story is strangely similar in attendees to that told by Guilhem's wife Fauressa in her testimony at MS609-0188-5, although separated by nearly a decade and change of location.
  • 3 cf.   MS609-0188-5, MS609-0207-7  

ON the aforesaid year and day Guilhem del Mas junior, son of Guilhem del Mas, sworn witness, said that he saw many heretics at Montségur and he greeted them many times, but he did not adore nor saw adoring. This was about 6 years ago.

Item. He saw at Laurac two heretics whom he did not know in the house of Pel de Samel, and he saw there with them the witness' mother Fabrissa, and Jordan del Mas, his brother, and Raimund de Quiders, Bernard Garsias, Johan Arnald and many others whom he did not recall, but he did not adore nor saw adoring. Then the aforesaid heretics said to the witness that he had done wicked things that that those who didn't esteem them do, like those who have long done such things. And the witness responded that he never esteemed them. This was about 16 years ago.

Item. He said that he saw Guilhem Fort del Pug, condemned heretic, who had come from Toulouse, and said witness invited him, and the aforesaid Guilhem eat with the witness however the witness was ignorant at the time that Guilhem had been condemned for heresy.

He did not see heretics anywhere else, nor believed them to be good men, nor to have good faith, nor could one be saved by them, nor lead or caused [them] to be lead, nor gave or sent them anything, nor accepted anything from them, nor listened to their preaching. All this was confessed to brother Ferrier at Limoux. He abjured heresy and swore, etc. Witnesses: as stated before, excepting Guilhem Pelhisson.

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  • SourceSource: BM Toulouse MS 609
  • Shelf Mark/FolioCote/Folio: 17v
  • Document DateDate de document: 1245-05-13
  • GroupGroupe: Mas-Saintes-Puelles (1)

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  • Bernard de Caux, OP, inquisitor
  • Bernard Garsias
  • Fauressa del Mas
  • Ferrier, frater ordinis predicatorum, inquisitor
  • Guilhem del Mas junior
  • Guilhem del Mas senior
  • Guilhem For del Pug
  • Guilhem Pelhisson, frater ordinis predicatorum
  • 2 unknown male heretics
  • Johan Arnaud
  • Jordan del Mas
  • many others unrecalled
  • Pel de Samel
  • Raimund de Quiriès
  • Sylvester, chaplain of Verfeil

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  • domus of Guilhem del Mas juniordomus de Guilhem del Mas junior
  • domus of Pel de Semeldomus de Pel de Semel
  • Laurac
  • Limoux
  • Montségur
  • Toulouse

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  • MS609-0203-3
  • MS609-0203-4

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