Deposition - Pons GautaDéposition - Pons Gauta

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How to citeComment citer : Rehr, JP. The Registry of the “Great Inquisition” at Toulouse, 1245-46: Edition of BM Toulouse MS609 (doc. MS609-0192). http://medieval-inquisition.huma-num.fr/documents/MS609-0192, acc. 2020-10-01

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  • Jean Duvernoy, ed.,  Le manuscrit 609 de la bibliothèque municipale de Toulouse. Lauragais 1245-1246, 1253,  http://jean.duvernoy.free.fr/text/listetexte.htm,  accessed 2017-08-01: 36
  • Austin Evans, ed.,  Interrogatoires subis par des hérétiques albigeois par-devant frère Bernard de Caux, inquisiteur, de 1245 à 1253,  BX4890 B47 1255g , Butler Library, Columbia University, New York
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 Item. Anno et die quo supra.1 Poncius Gauta testis iuratus dixit quod in loco qui dicitur Radel vidit Willelmum Vitalis et socium suum, hereticos.  Et vidit ibi cum eis Arnaldus Godal; Gualhardum Amielh; Iordanum de Quiders; Poncium Barrau; Willelmum Germa; Poncium Gran; Poncium Rainart; Poncium Garnier; Arnaldum Lapassa Nadal; Willelmum de Rozenge; Nalbaric 2; Petrum Capud PorciWillelmum Aymer; Companh. Et ipse testis et omnes predicti adoraverunt ibi dictos hereticos et audierunt predicationem eorum. Et sunt IIIIor anni vel circa. Et exinde ipse testis et Willelmus Aymer et Willemus de Rozenge duxerunt dictos hereticos usque ad vineam den Ferrat  et ibi receperunt eos Boquet de Vila Nova et quidam alius quem non novit.

Item. Dixit quod ipse testis et Godal  et Poncius Gran associaverunt a hereticos, nomina quorum ignorat, de domo ipsius testis usque ad merchadalium, sed ipse testis non adoravit tunc dictos hereticos nec vidit alios adorare. Et hoc fuit eodem tempore.

Item. Vidit duos hereticos in domo Poncii Gran  et exinde ipse testis et dictus Poncius Gran et Poncius Rainart et Guodal associaverunt dictos hereticos usque ad portam den Casteilho, et tunc ipse testis adoravit ibi dictos hereticos et vidit alios adorare. Et hoc fuit eodem tempore.

Item Vidit  hereticos stantes publice in terra. Et sunt XXX anni vel circa. Alibi non vidit hereticos.

Item dixit quod credidit hereticos esse bonos homines et habere bonam fidem et esse veraces et amicos Dei. Et audivit hereticos dicentes quod deus non fecerat visibilia, et quod hostia sacrata non est corpus Christi, et quod baptismus aque nihil valet, et quod in matrimonio non est salus, et ipse testis credidit omnibus predictis erroribus. Et sunt IIIIor anni quod primo credidit hereticos et sunt tres anni et dimidius quod non credidit. Item. Dixit quod omnia ista fuerunt ante confessionem quam fecit fratri Ferrario . Post dictam confessionem non vidit hereticos. Et abiuravit heresim et iuravit et cetera. Testes: Arnaldus, prior Sancti Saturnini; et magister Petrus de Caramanh; et frater Bernardus, inquisitor.

  • a  supp. dictos
  • 1  1245-06-11 per MS609-0188
  • 2 N'Albaric? ie. Peire de Na Albaric; compare with deposition of Peire Albaric, MS609-0088.

[21] Item. Anno et die quo supra.1 Poncius Gauta testis iuratus dixit quod in loco qui dicitur Radel vidit W[illelmum] Vitalis et socium suum, hereticos. [22] Et vidit ibi cum eis Arnaldus Godal; Gualhardum Amielh; Iordanum de Quiders; P[oncium] Barrau; W[illelmum] Germa; Poncium[23] Gran; Poncium Rainart; Poncium Garnier; Arnaldum Lapassa Nadal; W[illelmum] de Rozenge; Nalbaric 2; P[etrum] Capud Porci;[24] W[illelmum] Aymer; Companh. Et ipse testis et omnes predicti adoraverunt ibi dictos hereticos et audierunt predicationem eorum. Et sunt IIIIor anni[25] vel circa. Et exinde ipse testis et W[illelmus] Aymer et W[illemus] de Rozenge duxerunt dictos hereticos usque ad vineam den Ferrat [26] et ibi receperunt eos Boquet de Vila Nova et quidam alius quem non novit. Item. Dixit quod ipse testis et Godal [27] et Poncius Gran associaverunt a hereticos, nomina quorum ignorat, de domo ipsius testis usque ad merchadalium, sed[28] ipse testis non adoravit tunc dictos hereticos nec vidit alios adorare. Et hoc fuit eodem tempore. Item. Vidit duos hereticos in domo Poncii Gran [29] et exinde ipse testis et dictus Poncius Gran et Poncius Rainart et Guodal associaverunt dictos hereticos usque ad[30] portam den Casteilho, et tunc ipse testis adoravit ibi dictos hereticos et vidit alios adorare. Et hoc fuit eodem tempore. Item Vidit[31] hereticos stantes publice in terra. Et sunt XXX anni vel circa. Alibi non vidit hereticos. Item dixit quod credidit hereticos esse bonos homines[32] et habere bonam fidem et esse veraces et amicos Dei. Et audivit hereticos dicentes quod deus non fecerat visibilia, et[33] quod hostia sacrata non est corpus Christi, et quod baptismus aque nihil valet, et quod in matrimonio non est salus, et ipse testis[34] credidit omnibus predictis erroribus. Et sunt IIIIor anni quod primo credidit hereticos et sunt tres anni et dimidius quod non[35] credidit. Item. Dixit quod omnia ista fuerunt ante confessionem quam fecit fratri Ferrario . Post dictam confessionem[36] non vidit hereticos. Et abiuravit heresim et iuravit et cetera. Testes: Arnaldus, prior Sancti Saturnini; et magister P[etrus] de Caramanh; et frater B[ernardus], inquisitor.

  • a  supp. dictos
  • 1  1245-06-11 per MS609-0188
  • 2 N'Albaric? ie. Peire de Na Albaric; compare with deposition of Peire Albaric, MS609-0088.

Item. Year and day as above. The sworn witness Pons Gauta said that at a place called Lo Radel he saw Guilhem Vidal and his companion, heretics, and saw there with them Arnald Godalh, Guallard Amelh, Jordan de Quiders, Pons Barrau, Guilhem German, Pons Gran, Pons Rainart, Pons Garnier, Arnald Lapassa Nadal, Guilhem de Rosengue, [Peire] Albaric, Peire Cap-de-Porc, Guilhem Ayner, and Companh. The witness and all the aforementioned adored the aforesaid heretics there and listened to their preaching. This was about 4 years ago. And afterwards the witness and Guilhem Ayner and Guilhem de Rosengue lead the heretics to the vineyards of den Ferrat where they were received by Boquet de Vilanova and some others whom he did not know.

Item. He said that he himself and Arnald Godalh and Pons Gran accompanied two heretics whose names he did not know from his house to the market, but the witness himself did not adore the aforesaid heretics there nor saw others adore. This was the same period.

Item. He saw two heretics in the house of Pons Gran and afterwards the witness and the aforesaid Pons Gran, and Pons Rainart, and Arnald Godalh accompanied the aforementioned heretics to Casteilho gates, and then the witness himself adored the said heretics there and saw others adore. This was the same period.

Item. He saw heretics living openly in public, and this was about 30 years ago. Thereafter he did not see heretics.

Item. He said that he believed heretics to be good men and to have good faith and friends of God. He heard heretics say that God did not make visible things, and that the holy host is not the body of Christ, and that baptism by water is worth nothing, and that matrimony does not save, and the witness himself believed all of the aforementioned errors. It was four years ago that he first believed the heretics and three and a half years ago that he stopped believing. Item. He said that all the foregoing were in the confession made to brother Ferrier. Since the aforesaid confession he did not see heretics. He abjured heresy and swore, etc. Witnesses: Arnald, prior of Saint-Sernin; magister Peire de Caramanh; and brother Bernard de Caux, inquisitor.

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  • SourceSource: BM Toulouse MS 609
  • Shelf Mark/FolioCote/Folio: 15r
  • Document DateDate de document: 1245-06-11
  • GroupGroupe: Mas-Saintes-Puelles (1)

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  • Arnaud Godalh
  • Arnaud Lapassa Nadal
  • Arnaud Auriol, prior of Saint-Sernin
  • Bernard de Caux, OP, inquisitor
  • Boquet de Vilanova
  • Companh Gaufred
  • Ferrier, frater ordinis predicatorum, inquisitor
  • Galhard Amelh
  • Guilhem Ayner
  • Guilhem de Rosengue
  • Guilhem German
  • Guilhem Vidal
  • heretics in public (stantes/manantes)
  • 2 unknown male heretics
  • unknown male heretics
  • Jordan de Quiriès
  • many others unknown
  • Peire Albaric
  • Peire Saint-André
  • Peire, magister, archpresbyter, chaplain of Caraman
  • Pons Barrau
  • Pons Garnier
  • Pons Gauta
  • Pons Gran
  • Pons Rainart

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  • Casteilho gatesporte de Casteilho
  • domus of Pons Gautadomus de Pons Gauta
  • domus of Pons Grandomus de Pons Gran
  • Lo Radel
  • market at Mas-Saintes-Puellesmarché au Mas-Saintes-Puelles
  • open public at Mas-Saintes-Puellesen public à Mas-Saintes-Puelles
  • vineyards of den Ferratvignobles de den Ferrat

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