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How to citeComment citer : Rehr, JP. The Registry of the “Great Inquisition” at Toulouse, 1245-46: Edition of BM Toulouse MS609 (doc. MS609-0138). http://medieval-inquisition.huma-num.fr/documents/MS609-0138, acc. 2020-09-18

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  • Jean Duvernoy, ed.,  Le manuscrit 609 de la bibliothèque municipale de Toulouse. Lauragais 1245-1246, 1253,  http://jean.duvernoy.free.fr/text/listetexte.htm,  accessed 2017-08-01: 27-28
  • Austin Evans, ed.,  Interrogatoires subis par des hérétiques albigeois par-devant frère Bernard de Caux, inquisiteur, de 1245 à 1253,  BX4890 B47 1255g , Butler Library, Columbia University, New York
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 Item. Anno et die predictis.1 Petrus Willelmi Rechaut testis iuratus dixit quod vidit apud Mansum in domo Willelmi Vitalis Bertrandum Martini  et socium eius, hereticos. Et vidit ibi cum eis dictum Willelmum Vitalis et Seguram uxorem eius. Ipse testis non adoravit eos nec vidit adorare. Et sunt XX anni vel circa.

Item. Vidit apud Mansum in domo Petri de Sancto Andrea Iohannem Cambitorem et socium a eius,  hereticos. Et vidit ibi cum eis Arnald Godalh et dictum Petrum de Sancto Andrea et Susannam, uxorem eius. Sed ipse testis non adoravit nec  vidit adorare. Et fuit eodem tempore.

Alibi nunquam vidit hereticos nisi captos nec credidit numquam nec adoravit nec b  dedit nec misit eis aliquid nec duxit nec eorum predicationem audivit nec audivit hereticos loquentes de visibilibus nec de sacramentis  Ecclesie. Et fuit confessus fratri Ferrario apud Limosum et postea non vidit hereticos.

Postea dixit quod qualibet [F°11r]  vice quando vidit hereticos predictos, adoravit eos ter flexis genibus dicendo, “Benedicite”« Benedicite ». Et audivit eos dicentes quod Deus non feccit visibilia, et quod hostia sacrata non est corpus Christi, et quod matrimonium d est meretricium, et quod  mortui non resurgent. Et ipse testis credidit tunc sicut ipsi dicebant et credidit eos esse bonos homines et habere bonam fidem et esse amicos Dei. Sed non credidit XV anni sunt et sunt XX anni quod primo credidit . Et abiuravit heresim et iuravit et cetera. Testes: predicti.

  • a exp. s
  • b exp. vidit adorare et sunt eodem
  • c exp. cerat
  • d  supp. non

[31] Item. Anno et die predictis.1 P[etrus] Willelmi Rechaut testis iuratus dixit quod vidit apud Mansum in domo Willelmi Vitalis Bertrandum Martini [32] et socium eius, hereticos. Et vidit ibi cum eis dictum W[illelmum] Vitalis et Seguram uxorem eius. Ipse testis non adoravit eos nec vidit adorare. Et[33] sunt XX anni vel circa. Item. Vidit apud Mansum in domo P[etri] de Sancto Andrea Iohannem Cambitorem et socium a eius, [34] hereticos. Et vidit ibi cum eis Arnald Godalh et dictum P[etrum] de Sancto Andrea et Susannam, uxorem eius. Sed ipse testis non adoravit nec [35] vidit adorare. Et fuit eodem tempore. Alibi nunquam vidit hereticos nisi captos nec credidit numquam nec adoravit nec b [36] dedit nec misit eis aliquid nec duxit nec eorum predicationem audivit nec audivit hereticos loquentes de visibilibus nec de sacramentis [37] Ecclesie. Et fuit confessus fratri Ferrario apud Limosum et postea non vidit hereticos. Postea dixit quod qualibet [F°11r] [1] vice quando vidit hereticos predictos, adoravit eos ter flexis genibus dicendo, “Benedicite”« Benedicite ». Et audivit eos dicentes[2] quod Deus non feccit visibilia, et quod hostia sacrata non est corpus Christi, et quod matrimonium d est meretricium, et quod[3] mortui non resurgent. Et ipse testis credidit tunc sicut ipsi dicebant et credidit eos esse bonos homines et habere[4] bonam fidem et esse amicos Dei. Sed non credidit XV anni sunt et sunt XX anni quod primo credidit . Et abiuravit heresim et iuravit et cetera. Testes: predicti.

  • a exp. s
  • b exp. vidit adorare et sunt eodem
  • c exp. cerat
  • d  supp. non

Item. Year and day as before. The sworn witness Peire Guilhem de Recauth said that he saw Bertrand Marti and his companion, heretics, at Mas-Saintes-Puelles in the house of Guilhem Vidal and the witness saw there with them the aforesaid Guilhem Vitalis and his wife Segura, but the witness did not adore them nor saw adoring. This was about 20 years ago.

Item. The witness saw Johan Cambiaire and his companion, heretics, at Mas-Saintes-Puelles in the house of Peire de Saint-Andrea and the witness saw there with them Arnald Godalh, and the aforementioned Peire de Saint-Andrea and his wife Susanna, but the witness did not adore them nor saw adoration. This was the same period.

He has not seen heretics otherwise except as prisoner, nor did he believe them, nor adore, nor saw adoring, nor gave nor sent them anything, nor led them, nor listened to their preaching, nor heard them speak of visible things nor the sacraments of the Church. This was confessed to brother Ferrier at Limoux, and thereafter he did not see heretics.

Afterwards the witness said that each time he saw the aforementioned heretics he adored them by bending at the knee three times, saying, "Blessings." He heard them say that God did not make visible things, that the holy host is not the body of Christ, that marriage is prostitution, and the dead will not rise. And the witness believed what they said, and he believed them to be good men and to have good faith and were friends of God. But he stopped believing in them 14 years ago, and it was 20 years ago he started believing them. He abjured heresy, and swore, etc. Witnesses: as stated above.

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  • SourceSource: BM Toulouse MS 609
  • Shelf Mark/FolioCote/Folio: 10v-11r
  • Document DateDate de document: 1245-07-01
  • GroupGroupe: Mas-Saintes-Puelles (1)

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  • Arnaud Godalh
  • Bertrand Marti
  • Ferrier, frater ordinis predicatorum, inquisitor
  • Guilhem Vidal
  • Johan Cambiaire
  • Peire Saint-André
  • Peire de Ricaud
  • Segura Vidal
  • Susanna Saint-André

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  • domus of Bernard and Peire de Saint-André (Cap-de-Porc)domus de Bernard et Peire de Saint-André (Cap-de-Porc)
  • domus of Guilhem and Segura Vidaldomus de Guilhem et Segura Vidal
  • Limoux

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