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How to citeComment citer : Rehr, JP. The Registry of the “Great Inquisition” at Toulouse, 1245-46: Edition of BM Toulouse MS609 (doc. MS609-0013). http://medieval-inquisition.huma-num.fr/documents/MS609-0013, acc. 2020-11-24

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  • Jean Duvernoy, ed.,  Le manuscrit 609 de la bibliothèque municipale de Toulouse. Lauragais 1245-1246, 1253,  http://jean.duvernoy.free.fr/text/listetexte.htm,  accessed 2017-08-01: 9-10
  • Austin Evans, ed.,  Interrogatoires subis par des hérétiques albigeois par-devant frère Bernard de Caux, inquisiteur, de 1245 à 1253,  BX4890 B47 1255g , Butler Library, Columbia University, New York
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 Item. Anno quo a supra Ydus Iunii.1 Bernardus Cogata testis iuratus dixit quod vidit in domo Willelmi Vitalis Bertrandum Marti  et socium eius, hereticos. Et vidit ibi ipsum Willelmum Vitalis; et Seguram, uxor ipsius Wilhelmi Vitalis; Arnaldum Maiestre; Arnaldum Godal; Bernardum Cap de Porc; Willelmum de Canast-Brus; Arnaldum de Canast; et Petrum Vidal; et plures alios de quibus non recolit. Et ipse testis et omnes alii audierunt predicationem eorum et adoraverunt eos ter flexis genibus dicendo “Benedicite, probi homines, orate Deum pro nobis”« Benedicite, probi homines, orate Deum pro nobis ». Et sunt XII anni vel circa.

Item dixit quod in domo Petri de Cap de Porc Iohannem Cambiarre et socium suum, hereticos. Et vidit ibi cum eis Bernardum del Mas seniorem; Arnaldum de Rozerge; Garnerium; Petrum Gauta seniorem; et ipsum Petrum Cap de Porc; et Bernardum, fratrem dicti Petri Cap de Porc; et plures alios de quibus non recolit. Et ipse testis et omnes alii adoraverunt dictos hereticos.  Et sunt X anni vel circa.

Item. Dixit quod vidit in domo de Nariqua Raimudum, filium dicte Riqua, et socium suum,  hereticos. Et vidit ibi Roggerium Sartre; Petrum Gauta seniorem; et Sebilia, filia dicte Riqua; et ipsam Riqua;   et plures alios de quibus non recolit. Et ipse testis et omnes alii adoraverunt dictos hereticos. Et fuit eodem tempore.

 Item. Dixit quod vidit in domo den Campanh, sabater, Poncium Petit et socium suum, hereticos. Et vidit ibi cum eis Wilhelmum  de Canast-Brus; et ipsum Companh; et Wilhelma Gaufresa, matrem dicti Companh ; et Esmengardam,  filiam dicte Wilhelme Gaufresa . Et ipse testis et omnes alii adoraverunt ibi dictos hereticos. Et sunt XII anni vel circa.

[F°2v]  Item. Vidit in domo Wilhelme, filie b quandam den Companh, concubine Arnaldi Maiestre , Bernardum de Mairevila et socium suum, hereticos. Et vidit ibi cum eis Willelmum Ponz de Recauth; et Petrum, fratrem eius; et Willelmum Teissere;   Raimundum de Recau; et Arnaldum Maiestre, qui iacebat tunc infirmus in infirmitate qua decessit; et Wilhelmam, sororem dicti Arnaldi Maiestre. c Et tunc dicti heretici hereticaverunt dictum Arnaldum Maiestre  ipso teste vidente. Et ipse testis et omnes alii adoraverunt ibi dictos hereticos. Et sunt XII anni vel circa. 2

Predictos hereticos credidit esse bonos homines et amicos Dei et posse salvari per ipsos licet sciret quod ecclesia persequereter eos. Et audivit eos dicentes errores de visibilibus quod Deus non fecerat ea, et quod hostia sacrata non est corpus Christi, et quod in baptismo et matrimonio nond erat salus, et quod carnis resurrectio non erat. Et ipse credidit tunc sicut ipsi dicebant. Et sunt XVI anni quod primo credidit hereticos esse bonos sed non credidit VIII anni sunt . Et fuit confessus fratri Wilhelmo Arnaldi et socium suum, inquisitores, apud Tholosam et venit coram eis non citatus et fratri Ferrario apud  Sayssac . Et postea non vidit hereticos et credidit dicta confessiones esse veraces.

Item. Dixit quod Petrus Gauta loqutus est publice Bernardo, domino del Mas, contra ipsum testem in hunc modum Bernarde del Mas, est ne bonum quod aliquis qui detexerit nos eat vivus super terram?”«  Bernarde del Mas, est ne bonum quod aliquis qui detexerit nos eat vivus super terram? » Et propter illa verba, ipse testis cum familia sua exivit de Manso.

Item. Dixit quod Iordanus de Quiders dixit “Nuper ipsi testi modo apparebit quis expeditus erit citius vos qui provenistis alios in confessione”« Nuper ipsi testi modo apparebit quis expeditus erit citius vos qui provenistis alios in confessione ». Et abiuravit heresim et iuravit et cetera. Testes: Arnaldus, prior Sancti Saturnini; et magister Petrus de Caramag; et frater Bernardus, inquisitor.

  • a  supp. die
  • b exp. quondam
  • c  supp. et Raimundum de las de Recaut
  • d exp. est salus

[20] Item. Anno quo a supra Ydus Iunii.1 B[ernardus] Cogata testis iuratus dixit quod vidit in domo Willelmi Vitalis Bertrandum Marti [21] et socium eius, hereticos. Et vidit ibi ipsum W[illelmum] Vitalis; et Seguram, uxor ipsius Wilhelmi Vitalis; Arnaldum Maiestre; Ar[22] naldum Godal; B[ernardum] Cap de Porc; W[illelmum] de Canast-Brus; Arnaldum de Canast; et P[etrum] Vidal; et plures alios de[23] quibus non recolit. Et ipse testis et omnes alii audierunt predicationem eorum et adoraverunt eos ter flexis genibus[24] dicendo “Benedicite, probi homines, orate Deum pro nobis”« Benedicite, probi homines, orate Deum pro nobis ». Et sunt XII anni vel circa. Item dixit quod in[25] domo Petri de Cap de Porc Iohannem Cambiarre et socium suum, hereticos. Et vidit ibi cum eis B[ernardum] del Mas[26] seniorem; Arnaldum de Rozerge; Garnerium; P[etrum] Gauta seniorem; et ipsum P[etrum] Cap de Porc; et B[ernardum], fratrem[27] dicti Petri Cap de Porc; et plures alios de quibus non recolit. Et ipse testis et omnes alii adoraverunt dictos hereticos.[28] Et sunt X anni vel circa. Item. Dixit quod vidit in domo de Nariqua Raimudum, filium dicte Riqua, et socium suum,[29] hereticos. Et vidit ibi Roggerium Sartre; P[etrum] Gauta seniorem; et Sebilia, filia dicte Riqua; et ipsam Riqua; [30] et plures alios de quibus non recolit. Et ipse testis et omnes alii adoraverunt dictos hereticos. Et fuit eodem tempore. [31] Item. Dixit quod vidit in domo den Campanh, sabater, P[oncium] Petit et socium suum, hereticos. Et vidit ibi cum eis W[ilhelmum] [32] de Canast-Brus; et ipsum Companh; et Wilhelma Gaufresa, matrem dicti Companh ; et Esmengardam,[33] filiam dicte Wilhelme Gaufresa . Et ipse testis et omnes alii adoraverunt ibi dictos hereticos. Et sunt XII anni vel circa. [F°2v] [1] Item. Vidit in domo Wilhelme, filie b quandam den Companh, concubine Arnaldi Maiestre , Bernardum de Maire[2] vila et socium suum, hereticos. Et vidit ibi cum eis W[illelmum] Ponz de Recauth; et Petrum, fratrem eius; et W[illelmum] Teissere; [3] Raimundum de Recau; et Arnaldum Maiestre, qui iacebat tunc infirmus in infirmitate qua decessit; et Wilhelmam,[4] sororem dicti Arnaldi Maiestre. c Et tunc dicti heretici hereticaverunt dictum Arnaldum Maiestre [5] ipso teste vidente. Et ipse testis et omnes alii adoraverunt ibi dictos hereticos. Et sunt XII anni vel circa. 2 Predictos hereticos credidit esse[6] bonos homines et amicos Dei et posse salvari per ipsos licet sciret quod ecclesia persequereter eos. Et audivit[7] eos dicentes errores de visibilibus quod Deus non fecerat ea, et quod hostia sacrata non est corpus Christi, et quod[8] in baptismo et matrimonio nond erat salus, et quod carnis resurrectio non erat. Et ipse credidit tunc sicut ipsi[9] dicebant. Et sunt XVI anni quod primo credidit hereticos esse bonos sed non credidit VIII anni sunt . Et fuit confessus fratri[10] Wilhelmo Arnaldi et socium suum, inquisitores, apud Tholosam et venit coram eis non citatus et fratri Ferrario apud[11] Sayssac . Et postea non vidit hereticos et credidit dicta confessiones esse veraces. Item. Dixit quod P[etrus] Gauta loqutus est pub[12] lice Bernardo, domino del Mas, contra ipsum testem in hunc modum “ Bernarde del Mas, est ne bonum quod aliquis qui dete[13] xerit nos eat vivus super terram?”«  Bernarde del Mas, est ne bonum quod aliquis qui dete[13] xerit nos eat vivus super terram? » Et propter illa verba, ipse testis cum familia sua exivit de Manso. Item. Dixit[14] quod Iordanus de Quiders dixit “Nuper ipsi testi modo apparebit quis expeditus erit citius vos qui provenistis[15] alios in confessione”« Nuper ipsi testi modo apparebit quis expeditus erit citius vos qui provenistis[15] alios in confessione ». Et abiuravit heresim et iuravit et cetera. Testes: Arnaldus, prior Sancti Saturnini; et magister P[etrus] de Caramag; et frater B[ernardus], inquisitor.

  • a  supp. die
  • b exp. quondam
  • c  supp. et Raimundum de las de Recaut
  • d exp. est salus

Item. Year and day as above, the Ides of June. The sworn witness Bernard Cogota said that he saw Bertrand Marti and his companions, heretics, in the house of Guilhem Vidal, saw there Guilhem Vitalis himself and Segura, the wife of Guilhem Vitalis, Arnald Maiestre, Arnald Godalh, Bernard Cap-de-Porc, Guilhem Canast-Bru, Arnald Canast and P. Vidal and many others who he did not recall. The witness and all others listened to their preaching and adored them three times with bended knee, saying "Bless us, good men, pray to God for us." This was about 12 years ago.

Item. The witness said that in the house of Peire Cap-de-Porc he saw Johan Cambiaire and his companion, heretics, and saw with them there Bernard del Mas senior, Arnald de Rosengue, Companh Gaufred, Peire Gauta senior, and Peire Cap-de-Porc himself and Bernard brother of Peire Cap-de-Porc and many others he did not recall. The witness and all others adored said heretics. This was about 10 years ago.

Item. The witness said that in the house of na Riqua he saw the son of na Riqua, Raimund, and his companions, heretics, and he saw with them there Roger Sartre, Peire Gauta senior, and Sybile, sister of said Na Riqua, and Na Riqua herself, and many others he did not recall. The witness and all others adored said heretics. This was in the same period.

Item. The witness said that in the house of the shoemaker Companh he saw Peire Petit and companion, heretics, and he saw there with them Guilhem Canast-Bru and Companh himself and Guilhelma Gaufred, mother of said Companh, and Esmengarde, daughter of said Guilhelma Gaufred. And the witness and all others adored said heretics. This was about 12 years ago.

Item. The witness saw in the house of Guilhelma, daughter of Companh, wife of Arnald Maiestre, Bernard de Mairevilla and companion, heretics. And saw there with them Guilhem Pons de Recauth and his brother Peire, and Guilhem Teisserre, and Raimund de Recauth, and Arnald Maiestre, who was laid low at that time with a sickness of which he died, and Guilhelma, the sister of said Arnald Maiestre. The aforesaid heretics then hereticated Arnald Maiestre, which the witness himself saw. This was about 12 years ago.

The witness believed the aforesaid heretics to be good men and friends of God and that he could be saved by them even though he knew they were pursued by the Church. He heard them speak errors: that visible things were not made by God, that the holy host is not the body of Christ, that there is no salvation in baptism or marriage, and that there is no resurrection of the body, and the witness himself believed that which they said. It was 30 years ago that he first believed the heretics to be good men, and left this belief 8 years ago. This was confessed to brother Guilhem Arnold and his inquisitor associates at Toulouse, and he came to them unsolicited, and brother Ferrier at Saissac, and since then he has not seen heretics, and he believes the aforesaid confessions to be true.

Item. The witness said that Peire Gauta senior in speaking in public with Bernard, lord of Mas-Saintes-Puelles said in front of the witness himself, "Bernard, is it not good that someone who reveals us still lives on earth?" And because of these words the witness with his family left Mas-Saintes-Puelles.

Item. The witness said that Jordan de Quiders said to him recently, "Soon there will appear someone who will more quickly free you all, who may have disdained others in their confession." He abjured heresy and swore, etc. Witnesses: Arnald, Prior of Saint-Sernin; Magister Peire de Caraman; and brother Bernard, inquisitor.

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  • SourceSource: BM Toulouse MS 609
  • Shelf Mark/FolioCote/Folio: 2r-2v
  • Document DateDate de document: 1245-06-13
  • GroupGroupe: Mas-Saintes-Puelles (1)

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  • Arnaud de Canast
  • Arnaud de Rosengue
  • Arnaud Godalh
  • Arnaud Maiestre
  • Arnaud Auriol, prior of Saint-Sernin
  • Bernard Saint-André
  • Bernard Cogota
  • Bernard de Caux, OP, inquisitor
  • Bernard de Mayreville
  • Bernard del Mas senior
  • Bertrand Marti
  • Companh Gaufred
  • Ermengard Gaufred
  • Ferrier, frater ordinis predicatorum, inquisitor
  • Garnier senior
  • Guilhelma Gaufred
  • Guilhelma Companh
  • Guilhelma Maiestre
  • Guilhem Arnaud, OP
  • Guilhem de Canast Bru
  • Guilhem de Pons de Ricaud
  • Guilhem Teissere de la Porta de Trebolel
  • Guilhem Vidal
  • Johan Cambiaire
  • Jordan de Quiriès
  • many others unrecalled
  • Peire Saint-André
  • Peire, magister, archpresbyter, chaplain of Caraman
  • Peire de Ricaud
  • Peire Gauta senior
  • Peire Vidal
  • Peirona de na Riqua
  • Pons Petit
  • Raimund de na Riqua
  • Raimund de Ricaud
  • Roger Sartre
  • Segura Vidal
  • Sybile de na Riqua

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  • domus of Bernard and Peire de Saint-André (Cap-de-Porc)domus de Bernard et Peire de Saint-André (Cap-de-Porc)
  • domus of Companh Gaufreddomus de Companh Gaufred
  • domus of Guilhelma Maiestre née Companhdomus de Guilhelma Maiestre née Companh
  • domus of Guilhem and Segura Vidaldomus de Guilhem et Segura Vidal
  • domus of Peirona Na Riquadomus de Peirona Na Riqua
  • open public at Mas-Saintes-Puellesen public à Mas-Saintes-Puelles
  • Saissac
  • Toulouse

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