Deposition - Guilhem de la SilvaDéposition - Guilhem de la Silva
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- John Arnold, Peter Biller, eds., Heresy and Inquisition in France, 1200-1300, Manchester, Manchester University Press, 2016
- Bruno Dusan, “De Manso Sanctarum Puellarum” in Revue Archéologique du Midi de la France ((1868-1869)) : , annex i-xii: 1
- Jean Duvernoy, ed., Le manuscrit 609 de la bibliothèque municipale de Toulouse. Lauragais 1245-1246, 1253, http://jean.duvernoy.free.fr/text/listetexte.htm, accessed 2017-08-01
- Austin Evans, ed., Interrogatoires subis par des hérétiques albigeois par-devant frère Bernard de Caux, inquisiteur, de 1245 à 1253, BX4890 B47 1255g , Butler Library, Columbia University, New York
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Item. Anno et die quo supra1 Willelmus de Silva testis juratus dixit quod vidit in domo Petrum Cap-de-Porc Poncium Bolvena et socium eius, hereticos. Et vidit ibi cum eis Petrum Bernardum mazeler et ambo adoraverunt ibi dictos hereticos. Et sunt X anni vel circa.
Item. Vidit in domo Willelmi Canast-Bru Bertrandum Marti et socium eius, hereticos, et vidit ibi cum eis Raimundum den Amelh et P. Bernardia mazel. Et ipse testis adoravit ibi dictos hereticos et vidit alios adoraverunt. Et sunt XII anni vel circa.
Item. Vidit in domo de Narrica Raimundum filium de Na Riqua et socium eius, hereticos, et vidit ibi cum eis Petrum Gauta Seniorem; P. Bernardi, mazeler; Willelmum Bru de Canast; Arnaldum Maiestre. Set non recolat si ipse et alii adoraverunt ibi dictos hereticos. Et sunt XII anni vel circa.
Alibi non vidit hereticos quod recolat. Dixit etiam quod credidit hereticos esse bonos homines et habere bonam fidem [F°1v] et esse veraces et amicos Die. Sed non audivit hereticos loquentes de visibilibus, de baptismo, de hostia sacrata, nec de matrimonio. Audivit tamen clericos exprimentes errores quos dicunt hereticos. Sed ipse testis nunquamb credidit predictis erroribus. Et sunt XV anni quod primo credidit hereticos esse bonos et sunt X anni quod non credidit. Et fuit confessus fratri Ferrario set non habuit penetentiam ab ipso. Et abjuravit et juravit, et cetera. Testes: predicti.
- a exp. d
- b exp. dimi
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[37] Item. Anno et die quo supra1 W[illelmus] de Silva testis juratus dixit quod vidit in domo P[etrum] Cap-de-Porc P[oncium] Bolvena[38] et socium eius, hereticos. Et vidit ibi cum eis P[etrum] B[ernardum] mazeler et ambo adoraverunt ibi dictos hereticos. Et sunt X anni vel circa. [39] Item. Vidit in domo Willelmi Canast-Bru Bertrandum Marti et socium eius, hereticos, et vidit ibi cum eis R[aimundum] den[40] Amelh et P. B[ernardi]a mazel. Et ipse testis adoravit ibi dictos hereticos et vidit alios adoraverunt. Et sunt XII anni vel circa. [41] Item. Vidit in domo de Narrica Raimundum filium de Na Riqua et socium eius, hereticos, et vidit ibi cum eis P[etrum] Gauta Seniorem; [42] P. B[ernardi], mazeler; W[illelmum] Bru de Canast; Arnaldum Maiestre. Set non recolat si ipse et alii adoraverunt ibi dictos hereticos. Et [sunt][43] XII anni vel circa. Alibi non vidit hereticos quod recolat. Dixit etiam quod credidit hereticos esse bonos homines et habere bonam fidem[F°1v] [1] et esse veraces et amicos Die. Sed non audivit hereticos loquentes de visibilibus, de baptismo, de hostia sacrata, nec de matri[2] monio. Audivit tamen clericos exprimentes errores quos dicunt hereticos. Sed ipse testis nunquamb credidit predictis erroribus.[3] Et sunt XV anni quod primo credidit hereticos esse bonos et sunt X anni quod non credidit. Et fuit confessus fratri Ferrario[4] set non habuit penetentiam ab ipso. Et abjuravit et juravit, et cetera. Testes: predicti.
- a exp. d
- b exp. dimi
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Item. On the year and day as above Guilhem de la Silva, sworn witness, said that he saw Pons Bolvena and his companions, heretics, in the house of Peire Cap-de-Porc and he saw there with them Peire Bernard the butcher, and both adored said heretics. This was about ten years ago.
Item. The witness saw Bertrand Marti and his companion, heretics, in the house of Guilhem Canast-Bru, and saw there with them Raimund Amelh and Peire Bernard, butcher. The witness adored said heretics, and he saw others adore them. This was about 12 years ago.
Item. The witness saw Bernard son of na Riqua and his companions, heretics, in the house of na Riqua, and saw there with them Adalbert Noguier; Peire Bernard, macellator; Guilhem Canast-Bru; Arnald Maiestre, but did not recall if he himself and others adored said heretics. This was about 12 years ago.
He did not recall seeing heretics elsewhere. The witness said as well that he believed that the heretics were good men and had good faith and were true and friends of God, but he did not hear heretics speak of visible things, of baptism, of the holy host nor of marriage. However, he heard clerics speak of the errors that heretics say, but he never believed the aforesaid errors. It was 15 years ago that he first believed heretics to be good, and it was then years ago that he ceased such belief. This was confessed to brother Ferrier, but no penanence was given to him. He abjured heresy and swore, etc. Witnesses: as stated above.
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- SourceSource: BM Toulouse MS 609
- Shelf Mark/FolioCote/Folio: 1r-1v
- Document DateDate de document: 1245-05-27
- GroupGroupe: Mas-Saintes-Puelles (1)
- ThemesThèmes: discussion of heresydiscussion sur l'hérésie
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- Arnaud Maiestre
- Bertrand Marti
- Ferrier, frater ordinis predicatorum, inquisitor
- Guilhem de Canast Bru
- Guilhem de la Silva
- Peire Bernard
- Peire Saint-André
- Peire Gauta senior
- Peirona de na Riqua
- Pons Boulbène
- Raimund Amelh
- Raimund de na Riqua
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- MS609-0005-2
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- MS609-0005-4
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- MS609-0001 Arnaud GarnierArnaud Garnier
- MS609-0002 Guilhem de RosengueGuilhem de Rosengue
- MS609-0003 Hugo de MamiroHugo de Mamiro
- MS609-0004 Peire Lapassa seniorPeire Lapassa senior
- MS609-0005 Guilhem de la SilvaGuilhem de la Silva
- MS609-0006 Pons RainartPons Rainart
- MS609-0007 B. de BaziègeB. de Baziège
- MS609-0008 Peire de BaziègePeire de Baziège
- MS609-0009 Pons LobeiraPons Lobeira
- MS609-0010 Arnaud Pons GodalhArnaud Pons Godalh
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