MS609-0466 : Deposition - Raimund JoglarMS609-0466 : Déposition - Raimund Joglar

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Item. Anno et die quo supra.1Raimund Ioglar testis iuratus dixit quod dum ipse iret ad locum qui dicitur la Peira prope Bellum Podium , dimisit Raimundam, filiam suam , et Raimundum, filium suum , in domo sua. Et dum ipse rediret ad domum suam invenit Willelmam uxorem Raimundi Fabri de Campo Longo  et sociam suam, hereticas. Et tunc ipse testis quesivit ad dicto filio suo et filia quis misit ibi illas hereticas a. Et dicta Raimunda filia dicti testis respondit quod Ysarnus de Gibel introduxerat ibi dictas hereticas, et promiserat dicte Raimunde, filie ipsius testis , si dimitteret eas stare in dicta domo quod ipse  faceret sibi magnum bonum. Et tunc ipse testis nimia ira pervictus verberavit filiam suam et eiescit eam de domo nudam, sine omni veste. Et dum ipse percuteret filiam suam. Venit ibi Ysarnus de Giber et uxor eius Andrivua et comminati furerent ipsi testi et extraxerunt dictas hereticas de domo et duxerunt eas ad domum suam. Et tunc dicta filia fecit se hereticam et postea non vidit ipsam, sed audivit dici quod conversa est. Sed non adoravit  ibi dictas hereticas nec vidit adorare. Et sunt III anni vel circa.2

Alibi non vidit hereticos nec credidit nec adoravit nunquam nec aliquid dedit nec misit nec eorum predicationem audivit et fuit confessus fratre Willelmo Arnaldi apud Castrum Novum sed tunc non viderat dictas hereticas neque sciebat aliquid de heresi. Et abiuravit heresim et iuravit et cetera. Testes predicti.

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Item. Year and day as above. The sworn witness Raimund Joglar said that while he went to a place called La Petra near Belpech, he left Raimunda, his daughter, and Raimund, his son, at his house. Upon returning to his house he encountered Guilhelma, wife of Raimund Faure de Campolongo, and her companion, heretics. Then the witness asked his son and daughter who had let the heretics in, and when he asked his daughter Raimunda, Raimunda responded that Ysarn de Gibel brought the aforesaid heretics there, and he promised the aforesaid Raimunda, daughter of the witness, that if she let them stay in their house that he would make for her a great good. Then the witness beat his daughter with great rage and drove her out of his house nude and without any clothes. While beating his daughter, Ysarn de Gibel came with his wife Andrea, and they raged threateningly at the witness, and took the aforesaid heretics from the house and brought them to their house. Later, the aforesaid daughter became a heretic: he did not see her thereafter, but he heard it said she converted. But he did not adore the heretics there nor saw adoring. This was about 3 years ago.

He did not see heretics anywhere else, nor believed, nor adored ever, nor gave or sent them anything, nor listened to their preaching. This was confessed to brother Guilhem Arnald at Castelnaudary and since then he has not seen heretics nor known anything of heresy. He abjured heresy and swore, etc. Witnesses: as stated before.