MS609-0459 : Deposition - Raimunda de Saint-NazareMS609-0459 : Déposition - Raimunda de Saint-Nazare

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Item. Anno et die quo supra.1Raimunda, uxor Willelmi de Sancto Nazario , testis iurata dixit quod vidit in domo sua et viri suiBertrandum Martini et socium suum, hereticos. Et vidit ibi cum eis Poncium Mir, militem; Raimundum Mir; Sauram, uxorem Ga uiraldi Dadalo ; et Ermessen, uxorem  den Arezat, militis ; Raimundum de Leura; et Ay. Alric; Bernardum Marti; Arnaldum Marti; et plures alios de quibus non recolat. Et [F°32r]  ipsa testis et omnes alii adoraverunt ibi dictos hereticos ter flexis genibus dicendo, “Benedicite boni homines, orate Deum pro nobis.” Et sunt XV anni vel circa.

Item. alia vice vidit duos hereticos quos non novitin dicta domo sua et vidit ibi cum eis Arnaldum  {   }  2; W. Dazilha; Willelmum de Gozensc; et Willelmum Alfaric, qui duxerint ibi dictos hereticos; Petrum Folcs. Sed non adoravit nec vidit adorare. Et sunt IIIIor anni vel circa.

Item. Vidit in domo Ysarni de GibelAzam et Petrum Arnaldi, hereticos. Et vidit ibi cum eis ipsum Ysarnum et Andruam, uxorem eius. Et ipsa testis  adoravit ibi dictos hereticos sed non vidit alios adoraverunt. Et sunt VI anni vel circa.

Item. Dixit quod stetit cum Willelmata {   }  sua, heretica, per VII annos. Et pluries adoravit eam sicut ipsa docebat ipsam adorare. Et sunt XX anni vel circa.

Predictos hereticos credidit esse bonos homines et habere bonam fidem  et esse amicos dei licet sciret quod ecclesia persequeretur eos. Et audivit dicentes errores de visibilibus, quod Deus non fecerat ea  et quod corpora mortuorum non resurgerent. De hostia sacrata, de baptismo, nec de matrimonio non audivit eos loquentes. Et ipsa credidit tunc sicut ipsi dicebant. Et sunt XXX anni vel circa quod primo credidit hereticos esse bonos hominessed non credidit duo anni sunt.Predicta fuit confessa fratri Ferrario, inquisitore, apud Saysac sed non habuit penitentiam. Et abiuravit heresim et iuravit et cetera. Testes: qui in confessione Amade Fendelha3.  Et negavit veritatemDuv. confessionem coram fratri Willelmo Arnaldi et socio suo, inquisitoribus, apud Castrum Novum Darri.

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Item. Year and day as above. The sworn witness Raimunda, wife of Guilhem Saint-Nazare, said that she saw in her and her husaband's home Bertrand Martini and his companion, heretics, and she saw there with them Pons Mir, knight, Raimund Mir, Sauram, wife of Guiraldi Dadalo, Aymersend, wife of den Acezat, knight, Bernard Marti, Arnald Marti, and many others whom she did not recall. The witness herself and all the others adored the aforesaid heretics there, bending at the knee three times saying, "Bless us, good men, pray to God for us." This was about 15 years ago.

Item. Another time she saw two heretics she did not know in the aforesaid house, and she saw there with them Arnald [...], W. d’Azilha, and Guilhem de Gozens and Guilhem Alfaric who brought the heretics there, and Peire Folcs. But she did not adore nor see adoring. This was about 4 years ago.

Item. She saw in the house of Ysarn de Gibel Peire Arnald and Adam, heretics, and she saw there with them Ysarn himself and Andrea, his wife. The witness herself adored the aforesaid heretics there, but she did not see the others adore. This was about 6 years ago.

Item. She said that she stayed with Willelmeta [...] of hers, heretic, for seven years. She adored her many times, as she was taught by her to do. This was about 20 years ago.

She believed the above-mentioned heretics to be good men, to have good faith and to be friends of God, even though she knew that the Church persecuted them. She heard them speak errors of visible things, that God did not make them, and that the bodies of the dead will not be resurrected. She did not hear them speak of the holy host, of baptism, or of matrimony. She herself believed then what they said. She first believed them to be good men about 30 years ago and stopped believing 2 years ago. The foregoing was confessed to brother Ferrier at Saissac but she was not given penance. She abjured heresy and swore, etc. Witnesses: as in the confession of Amada Fendelha. She denied the truth before brother Guilhem Arnald and his fellow inquisitors at Castelnaudary.