MS609-0230 : Deposition - Peirona Na RiquaMS609-0230 : Déposition - Peirona Na Riqua

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Item. Anno et die quo supra.1Narricha, uxor den Azalbert , testis iurata dixit quod apud Sanctum Martinum de la Landa prope Castrum Novum Darriin domo Poncii Durandi vidit Willelmum Bernardi Dairo et socium suum, hereticos. Et vidit ibi cum eis dictum Poncium et uxorem eius. Et ipsa testis adoravit eos ibi et alii duo. Et sunt XX anni vel circa.

Item. Dixit quod vidit in domo propria pluries filium  ipsius testis et socium suum, hereticos, et vidit ibi semel separatim Iordanum de Manso et Gualhardum, fratres, milites; et Bernardum de Manso, militem; et Bertranduma de Quiders; et Roggerium de Caucio; et Bernardum Cogoz et uxorem eius; et Garnerium del Mas;  et Poncium Dalamans; et Willelmum Barba; et Azalbertumb del Noguier; et Willelmum Poncii de Richaut; et Petrum de Ricaut;  fratres et Arnaldum de Rozenge et Stephanum de Rozenge, fratres; et Petrum Boer; et Arnaldum Donat; et Beguon de Rocovila. Et ipsa testis adoravit eos ibi et vidit quosdam de aliis adoraverunt sed nescit ipsos nominare. Et sunt X anni vel circa.

Item. Dixit quodtociens vidit dictum filium suum et socium suum, hereticos, in domo propria quod non recolit a XVe annis citra.

Item. Dixit quod Petrum Lavander et P. Willelmi Cavanh fuerunt semel in domo ipsius testis et viderunt dictum Raimundum filium ipsius testis hereticum et socium suum. Et ipsi duo comederunt cum dictos hereticos in domo ipsius testis. Et ipsa testis et alii adoraverunt ibi dictos hereticos. Et sunt  V anni vel circa.

Item. Alia vice vidit in domo propria vidit dictum filium suum et socium suum, hereticos, et vidit ibi cum eis Willelmum de Canast Bru; et Petrum Gauta seniorem; et Willelmum de la Selva. Sed ipsa testis nec alii non adoravit dictos hereticos. Et sunt VIII anni vel circa.

Item. In domo Willelmi de Canast Bru vidit duas hereticas. Et ipsa testis flebotomavit ibi dictas hereticas et adoravit eas et vidit ibi cum eis Petronam de Canast sed non vidit ipsam adoravit. Et sunt X anni vel circa.

Item. Vidit in domo Willelmi Vitalis  dictum Raimundum filium ipsius testis et socium suum, hereticos. Et vidit ibi cum eis dictum Willelmum Vitalis et uxorem ipsius. Sed non recolit utrum adoraverunt eos ibi. Et sunt VIII anni vel circa.

Item. In domo Arnaldi Godalh vidit dictum filium suum et socium suum hereticos et vidit ibi cum eis Arnaldum Godalh et filium ipsius Arnaldi Poncium. Et ipsa testis adoravit eos sed non vidit alios adorare.  Et sunt Ve anni vel circa.

Item. Dixit quod credidit hereticos esse bonos homines et veraces et amicos Dei licet sciret quod Ecclesia persequeretur eos. Et sunt XX anni quod primo credidit et sunt duo anni quod non credidit. Dixit etiam quod audivit hereticos dicentes quod hostia sacrata non erat corpus Christi, et quod matrimonium non valebat, et quod carnis resurrectio non erit, et ipsa testis credebat sicut ipsi dicebant. [F°21v]  De visibilibus non audivit eos loqui.

Item. Dixit quod vidit in domo Ermengarde Boeire Limars et sociam suam, hereticas, et duas alias hereticas. Et ipsa testis flebotomavit ibi dictas hereticas et adoravit ibi tam hereticas quam hereticos. Et vidit ibi dictam Ermengardam sed non vidit ipsam adoravit. Et sunt VIII anni.

Item. Dixit quod confessa fuit aliis inquisitoribus et postea non vidit hereticos nec misit eis aliquid, quam confessionem credidit esse veram. Alibi non vidit hereticos nec adoravit nec dedit nec misit nec duxit nec recepit nec eorum predicationem audivit.

Item. Ab IIIIor annis citra vidit in domo sua predictum filium suum et socium eius, hereticos, et adoravit eos semel.

Et abiuravit heresim et iuravit et cetera. Testes: qui in confessione Ermengardis. Et non habuit penitentiam.

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Item. Year and day as above. The sworn witness Na Riqua, wife of den Adalbert, said that she saw Guilhem Bernard Ayros and his companion, heretics, in the house of Pons Durand at Saint-Martin-Lalande near Castelnaudary, and she saw with them there the aforesaid Pons and his wife. The witness herself adored them there and two others. This was about 20 years ago.

Item. She said that she saw Raimund de Nariqua, the witness' son, and his companion, heretics, many times in her own home. She saw there at times, separately, Jordan del Mas and Galhard, brothers and knights, Bernard del Mas, knight, Bertrand de Quiders, Roger de Caux, Bernard Cogota and his wife, Garnier of Mas-Saintes-Puelles, Pons D'Alamans, Guilhem Barbas, and Adalbert Noguier, Guilhem Pons de Recauth and Peire de Recauth, brothers, Arnald de Rosengue and Stephan de Rosengue, brothers, Peire Boer, Arnald Donat, and Beguon de Rochavila. The witness herself adored them there and saw some of them adore but was not able to name them. This was about 10 years ago.

Item. She said that she saw her aforesaid son and his companion, heretics, many times in her own home but she did not recall when but less than 15 years ago.

Item. She said that Peire Lavender and P. Guilhem Cavanh were in the witness' house once and they saw the aforesaid Raimund de Nariqua, son of the witness, and his companion, heretics, and these two ate with the aforesaid heretics in her home. The witness herself and everyone else adored the heretics there. This was about 5 years ago.

Item. Once she saw in her own house the aforesaid son of the witness and his companion, heretics, and she saw there with them Guilhem Canast-Bru, Peire Gauta senior, and Guilhem de la Silva. But neither the witness herself nor anyone else adored the aforesaid heretics. This was about 8 years ago.

Item. She saw two heretic women in the house of Guilhem Canast-Bru and the witness bled the said heretics there, and she adored them. She saw with them Perona Canast but she did not see her adore. This was about 10 years ago.

Item. She saw the aforesaid Raimund de Nariqua, sone of the witness, and his companion, heretics, in the house of Guilhem Vidal, and she saw there with them Guilhem Vidal and his wife. But she did not recall whether they adored them there. This was about 8 years ago.

Item. In the house of Arnald Godalh she saw her aforementioned son and his companion, heretics, and Arnald Godalh and the son of Arnaldi, Pons, were there. The witness herself adore them but did not see the other adore. This was about 5 years ago.

Item. She said that she believed the heretics to be good men and true and friends of God, even though she knew the Church persecuted them. She started believing in them 20 years ago, and 2 years ago stopped believing. She said as well that she heard heretics say that the holy host is not the body of Christ, and that marriage has no value for salvation, and that there is no resurrection of the body, and the witness herself believed that which they said. She did not hear them speak of visible things.

Item. She said that she saw Limars and his companion, heretics, and two other heretical women, in the house of Ermengarde Boer. The witness bled the said heretics there and adored the female heretics as much as the male heretics. She saw with the heretics Ermengarde, but she did not see her adore. This was 8 years ago.

Item. She said that all of this was confessed to inquisitors and thereafter she did not see heretics nor sent them anything, and such confession she believed to be the truth. She did not see heretics anywhere else, nor adored, nor gave or sent [them anything], nor led, nor received, nor listened to their preaching.

Item. Less than 4 years ago she saw in her own house her aforesaid son and his companion, heretics, and she adored them once.

She abjured heresy and wore, etc. Witnesses: as in the confession of Ermengarde. She was not given penance.