MS609-0201 : Deposition - Guilhem del Mas seniorMS609-0201 : Déposition - Guilhem del Mas senior

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Item. Anno et die predictis.1Willelmus del Mas, vir domine Fabrisse, frater Bernardi del Mas predicti, testis iuratus dixit quod  tenuit in domo sua apud Mansum Guarsen, matrem suam et Gualhardam, sororem ipsius testis, hereticas, per duos annos et amplius, sed non adoravit eas nec vidit adoravit. Et sunt XX anni vel circa.

Item. Dixit quod tenuit in domo sua propria Arnaldum de Vila Pencha et Bernardum de Sancto Stephano, hereticos, per unas messes et colligebant bladum ipsius testis. Sed non adoravit nec vidit adoravit. Et fuit eodem tempore.

Item. Dixit quod vidit Gilabert de Castras et socium suum, hereticos, apud Mansum in domo den Estolt de Rochavila . Et vidit ibi cum eis Bernardum del Mas; et Estolt de Rochavila  et Begonem, fratrem dicti Estolt ; et Saurimundam, uxorem Bernardi del Mas, fratris ipsius testis; et plures alios de quibus non recolit. Et ipse testis adoravit ibi dictos hereticos et audivit predicationem eorum sed non recolit si vidit alios adoraverunt. Et sunt XXV anni vel circa.

Item. Vidit apud Mansum in domo Arnaldi de Canast duos hereticos quorum nomina ignorat publice ibi comorantes sed non adoravit nec vidit adorare. Et sunt XXX anni vel circa.

Item. Dixit quod ipse et Estolt de Rochavila et Iordanus,  filius dicti testis, obviaverunt duobus hereticisin loco qui dicitur de Botaric et duxerunt eos usque ad castrum de Gaiano  et dimiserunt eos extra villam. Sed non adoravit nec vidit adoravit. Et sunt  {   }  anni vel circa.

contra dixit in confessione postea qua fecit apud Limosum Predictos hereticos credidit esse bonos homines et habere bonam fidem et esse amicos Die et posse salvari per ipsos. Sed non audivit eos loquentes errores de visibilibus, de matrimonio, de baptismo, nec de hostia sacrata audivit eos loquentes, sed audivit clericos exprimentes hereticorum errores. Et sunt XXX anni quod primo credidit hereticos esse bonos homines et sunt XX anni quod non credit. Alibi non vidit hereticos nec aliquid dedit nec misit nisi ut supradictum est. Et hec omnia fuit confessus fratri Ferrario apud Limos et illam confessionem credidit esse veram. Et abiuravit heresim et iuravit et cetera. Testes: propedicti.

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Item. Year and day as stated before. The sworn witness Guilhem del Mas, husband of domina Fabrissa, brother of the aforesaid Bernard del Mas, said that Garsen, his mother, and Galharda, sister of the witness, heretics, stayed in his house at Mas-Saintes-Puelles for two months or more, but he did not adore nor saw adoring. This was about 20 years ago.

Item. He said that the heretics Arnald de Pencha and Bernard de Saint-Stephan stayed in his house for the harvest months, and they his gathered grain. But he did not adore nor saw adoring. This was the same period.

Item. He said that he saw Guilabert de Castre and his companion, heretics, in the house of Estolt de Rochavila at Mas-Saintes-Puelles, and he saw there with them Bernard del Mas, and Estolt de Rochavila, and said Estolt's brother Beguon de Rochavila, and Saramunda, wife of the witness' brother Bernard del Mas, and many others whom he did not recall. The witness adored the aforesaid heretics there and listened to their preaching, but he did not recall if he saw others adore. This was 25 year ago.

Item. He saw two heretics whose names he did not know living openly at the house of Arnald Canast in Mas-Saintes-Puelles, but he did not adore nor saw adoring. This was about 30 years ago.

Item. He said that he and Estolt de Rochavila and the witness' son Jordanet met two heretics in a place called Botaric, and they led them to the castra of Gaja-la-Selve and left them outside the village, but he did not adore nor saw adoring. This was about [lacuna] years ago.

??He believed the aforementioned heretics to be good men and to have good faith and to be friends of God, and one could be saved through them. But he did not hear them speak errors of visible things, of matrimony, or of baptism, nor did he hear them speak of the holy host. But he did hear clerics speak the errors of heretics. It was 30 years ago that he first believed the heretics to be good men, and 20 years ago that he stopped believing. He did not see heretics anywhere, nor gave or sent them anything except as said above. All this was confessed to brother Ferrier at Limoux, and he believed such confession to be true. He abjured heresy and swore, etc. Witnesses: as stated before.