MS609-0185 : Deposition - Arnald CanastMS609-0185 : Déposition - Arnald Canast

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Item. Anno et die quo supra.1Arnaldus de Canast testis iuratus dixit quod vidit pluries plures hereticospublice manentes apud Mansum. Et sunt XL anni vel circa.

Item. In domo Petri Cap de Porc vidit Iohannem Cambiaire et socium suum, hereticos. Et vidit ibi cum eis Bernardum del Mas et Iordanum del Mas, milites; et Bertrandum de Quiders; et plures alios de quibus non recolit. Et ipse testis et omnes alii adoraverunt ibi dictos hereticos et audierunt predicationem eorum. Et sunt XII anni vel circa.

Item. In domo Poncii Gauta vidit duos hereticos quorum nomina ignorat et vidit ibi cum eis Iordanum del Mas; et dominam Na Finas; et plures alios de quibus non recolit. Et ipse testis et omnes alii adoraverunt ibi dictos hereticos. Et sunt VII anni.

Item. In domo Willelmi Vitalis vidit Poncium de Bolbena et socium suum, hereticos. Et ipsum Willelmum Vitalis et Bernardum Barrau. Et ipse testis et  omnes alii adoraverunt ibi dictos hereticos. Et sunt VII anni vel circa.

Item. Dixit quod credidit hereticos esse bonos homines licet sciret quod ecclesia persequeretur eos. Et sunt XL anni quod hoc credidit et sunt VII anni quod non credidit.De visibilibus de corpus Christi de matrimonio non audivit eos loquentes, licet mater ipsius testis et soror sua fuerint heretice manifeste. Et sunt XXX anni quod sunt mortue. Alibi non vidit hereticos quod recolat. Et fuit confessus aliis [F°14v]  inquisitoribus apud Limos, quam confessionem credidit esse veram, sed non habuit penitentiam. Et recognovit quod male  fecit quia postquam abiuravit heresium et promisit iuravit persequi hereticos credidit, adoravit hereticos. Et abiuravit heresim et iuravit, et cetera. Testes: predicti.

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Item. Year and date as above. The sworn witness Arnald Canast said that many times he saw many heretics living openly at Mas-Saintes-Puelles. This was about 40 years ago.

Item. He saw Johan Cambiaire and his companion, heretics, in the house of Peire Cap-de-Porc, and he saw there with them Bernard del Mas and Jordan del Mas, knights, and Bernard de Quiders, and many others whose names he did not recall. The witness and everyone else adored the aforesaid heretics there and listened to their preaching. This was about 12 years ago.

Item. He saw in house of Pons Gauta two heretics whose names he did not know, and he saw there with them Jordan del Mas and dominam Na Finas, and many others whose names he did not recall. The witness and everyone else adored the aforesaid heretics there. This was 7 years ago.

Item. He saw in the house of Guilhem Vidal Pons Bolvena and his companion, heretics, and Guilhem Vitalis himself, and Bernard Barrau. The witness and everyone else adored the aforesaid heretics there. This was about 7 years ago.

Item. He said that he believed heretics to be good men even though he knew the Church persecuted them. And 40 years ago he believed them, and 7 years ago he stopped believing. He did not hear them speak of visible things, of the body of Christ, of matrimony, although his mother and her sister were clearly heretics. And they died 30 years ago. He did not see heretics anywhere else, and all was confessed to inquisitors at Limoux, such confession he believed to be the truth, but he did not have penance. He recognized that he did wicked things and thereafter abjured heresy and promised and swore to persecute the heretics he had believed and the heretics he had adored. He abjured heresy and swore, etc. Witnesses: as stated above.