MS609-0160 : Deposition - Guilhelma Meta née del MasMS609-0160 : Déposition - Guilhelma Meta née del Mas

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 [F°11v]  Soror dominorum del MansoItem. Anno a quo supra IIII Ydus Iunii.1Willelma Meta, mater Bernardi et Iordanii de Quiders, testis iurata dixit quod vidit Na Garsen, matrem ipsius testis, hereticam, apud Mansum in domo propria dicte Garsen heretice publice stare. Et ipsa testis pluries adoravit eam et vidit alios adoraverunt, sed non recolit nomina eorum qui adorabant dictam hereticam. Et sunt XL anni vel circa.

Item. Dixit quod in eodem tempore dicta Garsen heretica venit ad domum visitatum Nod de Quiders, filium ipsius testis qui infirmabatur, et abstraxit dictum Nod a domo ipsius testis et fecit eum deferri ad domum suam et ibi hereticati. Et infra IIIes dies mortuus est hereticus et ipsa testis non vidit ipsum quousque fuit mortuus. 2

Item. vidit stare plures hereticospublice in terram. Et fuit eodem tempore.

Item. Vidit Bertrandum Martini et socium suum, hereticos, apud Mansum in domo Bernardi de Quiders . Et vidit ibi cum eis Iordanum de Manso, fratrem ipsius testis; Bernardum de Quiders; Raimundum de Quiders, filium ipsius testis; et plures alios de quibus non recolit. Et ipsa testis et  omnes alii adoraverunt eos ibi flexis genibus dicendo, “Benedicite boni homines, orate Deum pro nobis.”Et sunt XII anni

Item. Vidit Bertrandum Martini et socium suum, hereticos, apud Mansum in domo Willelmi Vitalis . Et vidit ibi cum eis Willelmum Vitalis et Seguram,  uxorem eius. Et ipsa testis et omnes alios adoraverunt eos ibi. Et sunt XII anni.

Item. Vidit quod Bertrandus Martini et socius suus, heretici, intraverunt domum ipsius testis, sed sine consilio ipsius testis et cum eis venit Arnaldus Godalh qui ducebat eos. Et venerunt ibi Garnerius; Petrus Gauta seniorem; Gualhardus de Manso et Flors, uxoris ipsius Gualhardi. Et dictus Bertrandus Martini predicavit eos ibi et finita predicatione heretici et alii exieruntb domum ipsius et nescit ipsa testis de hereticis quo iverunt sed non adoravit nec vidit adorare. Et sunt XIII anni.

Item. Vidit Praderium et socium eius, hereticos, in domo ipsius testis. Et vidit  ibi cum eis Iordanum de Quiders; Raimundum de Quiders; Iordanum de Manso, qui adduxerat dictos hereticos ibi. Et dictus Iordanus de Manso dedit eis ad comedendum in domo ipsius testis. Et post prandium dicti heretici recesserunt sed non adoravit nec vidit  adorare. Et sunt V anni vel VI.

Predictos hereticos credidit esse bonos et habere bonam fidem. Et sunt XL anni quod primo credidit hereticos et sunt XII anni quod ultimo dimisit errores eorum. Alibi non vidit hereticos nec credidit nec adoravit nec comedit cum eis  nec misit eis aliquid. Et fuit confesse fratri Ferrario. Et abiuravit heresim et iuravit et cetera. Testes: B. de Ladinhac; Silvester, capellanus de Viridifolio;  et frater Bernardus, inquisitor; et Petrus Fresa Pa.

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Sister of the lords of Mas-Saintes-PuellesItem. Year as above, 4th Ides of June. The sworn witness Guilhelma Meta, mother of Bernard de Quiders and Jordan de Quiders, said that she saw her mother, na Garsen, heretic, at Mas-Saintes-Puelles in the home of the aforesaid na Garsen, where heretics openly stayed. The witness adored them many times and saw others adore them, but she did not recall the names of those who adored the aforesaid heretics. This was about 40 years ago.

Item. The witness said that in the same period the aforementioned heretic na Garsen came to the house to visit the son of the witness, Nod, who was ill. And na Garsen took Nod from the witness' house and carried him to her house and he was there hereticated and within three days he died a heretic. The witness did not see while he died.

Item. The witness saw many heretics living publicly and this was the same period.

Item. The witness saw Bertrand Marti and his companion, heretics, at Mas-Saintes-Puelles in the house of Bernard de Quiders, and she saw there with them her brother, Jordan del Mas, Bernard de Quiders, Raimund de Quiders, the witness' son, and many others whom she did not recall. The witness and everyone adored them there, bending at the knee and saying, "Bless us, good men, and pray to God for us." This was about 12 years ago.

Item. The witness saw Bertrand Marti and his companions, heretics, at Mas-Saintes-Puelles in the home of Guilhem Vidal, and she saw there with them William Vitalis and his wife Segura. The witness and everyone else adored them there. This was 12 years ago.

Item. The witness saw Bertrand Marti and his companion, heretics, come into the witness' house without asking her, and with them came Arnald Godalh, who led them, Garnier senior, Peire Gauta senior, Galhard del Mas, and Flors, wife of Galhard. The aforementioned Bertrand Marti preached to them there, and finished with preaching, everyone left her house. The witness did not know the heretics who came there, but she did not adore nor saw adoring. This was 8 years ago.

Item. The witness saw Arnald Prader and his companions, heretics, in her house and saw with them Jordan de Quiders, Raimund de Quiders, and Jordan del Mas who brought the heretics. The aforementioned Jordan del Mas gave them food at the witness' house, and after lunch the aforementioned heretics left, but the witness did not adore them nor saw adoring. This was about 6 years ago.

The witness believed the aforementioned heretics to be good and to have good faith, and it was 40 years ago when she first believed the heretics and it was 12 years ago that she left behind their errors. Thereafter she did not see heretics, nor believed, nor adored, nor ate with them, nor brought them anything. This was confessed to brother Ferrier. She abjured heresy and swore, etc. Witnesses: Magister Bernard, chaplain of Ladinhac; Sylvester, chaplain of Verfeil; brother Bernard de Caux, inquisitor; and Peire Fresapa, notary.