MS609-0135 : Deposition - Arnald DonatMS609-0135 : Déposition - Arnald Donat

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Sororius Arnaldi Picrel Item. Anno et die predictis.1Arnaldus Donat testis iuratus dixit se vidisse hereticosstantes publice apud Mansum, sed ipse testis non adoravit eos. Et sunt XL anni vel amplius.

Item. Vidit apud Mansum in domo Willelmi Vitalis Poncium Bolvena et socium eius, hereticos.  Et vidit ibi cum eis Willelmum Vitalem et Seguram, uxorem eius; et Petrum Gauta seniorem. Et ipse testis et dictus Petrus Gauta adoraverunt ibi dictos hereticos, sed non vidit alios adoraverunt. Et sunt XIIII anni vel circa.

Item. Vidit apud Mansum in domo Willelmi de Canast Bru Bernardum de Maire Vila et socium eius, hereticos. Et vidit ibi cum eis dictum Willelmum de Canast; Hic manet apud Tholosam + apud Auriacum. et Peironam, neptem eius; et Peironam, matrem dicti Willelmi. Et ibi ipse testis adoravit dictos hereticos sed non vidit alios adorare. Et sunt XIII anni vel circa.

Item. Vidit apud Mansum in domo de Na Rica Raimundum de Na Rica, filium dicte Rique, et socium eius, hereticos. Sed ipse testis non adoravit nec vidit adoraverunt. Et sunt X anni et amplius.

Item. Vidit apud Mansum extra villam iuxta capellam beati Michaelis Bertrandum Martini et socium eius, hereticos. Et vidit ibi cum eis Gualhardum de Manso et Raimundum Gauta del Plan; et Compa Gaufre; et Willelmum Vitalem; et Willelmum Moreta; et Arnaldum Godalh; et Petrum Caput Porci; et Petrum Gauta seniorem;  et alios de quibus non recolit. Et omnes et ipse testis adoraverunt ibi dictos hereticos et audierunt predicationem eorum. Et sunt  {   }  anni et amplius. 2

Item. Vidit apud Mansum in domo B. Roggerii Poncium Bolvena et socium eius, hereticos. Et vidit ibi cum eis dictum B. Roggerii;  et Gualhardam3, uxorem eius; et Raimundam, uxorem P. Fabri. Et sunt XVIII anni. Sed ipse testis non adoravit eos nec vidit adorare. Alibi nunquam vidit hereticos nisi captos.

Item. Dixit se credidisse hereticos esse bonos homines et habere bonam fidem et esse veraces et amicos  Dei et posse salvari per ipsos tamen non audivit hereticos loquentes de visibilia nec de sacramentis Ecclesie. Et sunt XX  anni quod primo credidit hereticos esse bonos et sunt X anni quod non credidit. Et fuit confessus apud Limosumfratri Ferrario et postea non vidit hereticos.

Item. Audivit dici quod Ermengardem, matrem ipsius, testis fuit heretica et sunt L anni.  Et abiuravit heresim et iuravit et cetera. Testes: qui in confessione Willelme Sicresa.

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Brother-in-law of Arnald PicrelhItem. Year and day as before. The sworn witness Arnald Donat saw heretics living publicly at Mas-Saintes-Puelles, but the witness did not adore them. This was about 40 years ago.

Item. The witness saw Pons Bolvena and his companion, heretics, at Mas-Saintes-Puelles in the house of Guilhem Vidal and saw there with them Guilhem Vidal and his wife Segura, and Peire Gauta senior, and the witness and aforementioned Peire Gauta adored the aforementioned heretics there, but he did not see the others adore. This was about 18 years ago.

Item. The witness saw Bernard de Mairevilla and his companion, heretics, at Mas-Saintes-Puelles in the house of Guilhem Canast-Bru He lives at Toulouse and Auriac. and the witness saw there with them the aforesaid Guilhem Canast-Bru and Peirona, his niece, and Peirona, mother of the aforesaid Guilhem. The witness adored the aforementioned heretics there, but he did not see others adore. This was about 13 years ago.

Item. The witness saw at Mas-Saintes-Puelles in the house of na Riqua Raimund de Nariqua, son of said Na Riqua, and his companion, heretics, but the witness did not adore nor saw them adore, and this was 10 years or more ago.

Item. The witness saw Bertrand Marti and his companion, heretics, at the Chapel of Blessed Michael outside the village of Mas-Saintes-Puelles and the witness saw there with them Galhard del Mas, Raimund Gauta, Companh Gaufred, Guilhem Vidal, Guilhem Moreta, Arnald Godalh, Peire Cap-de-Porc, Peire Gauta senior, and more whom the witness did not recall. Everyone and the witness adored the aforementioned heretics there and listened to their preaching. And this was [...] years ago or more.

Item. The witness saw Pons Bolvena and his companion, heretics, at Mas-Saintes-Puelles in the house of B. Roger and he saw there with them the aforesaid B. Roger and his wife Galharda Roger, and Ramunda, wife of P. Fabri. This was 18 years ago, but the witness did not adore them nor saw them adore. The witness did not see heretics otherwise except as prisoners.

Item. The witness said he believed the heretics to be good men, to have good faith, to be true, friends of God, and that one could be saved by them. However he did not hear the heretics speak of visible things nor of the sacraments of the Church. It was 20 years ago that he first believed the heretics to be good and it was 10 years ago that he stopped believing. And this was confessed at Limoux to brother Ferrier and thereafter he has not seen heretics.

Item. The witness heard it said that his mother, Ermengarde, was a heretic, and this was 50 years ago. And he abjured heresy and swore, etc. Witnesses: as listed in confession of Willelma Sicre.