MS609-0134 : Deposition - Galhard AmelhMS609-0134 : Déposition - Galhard Amelh

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Anno et die predictis.1Guallardus Amelii testis iuratus dixit se vidisse de nocte apud Radell, in territorio de Manso,  Willelmum Vitalem et Bernardum Cap de Porc socium eius, hereticos 2. Et vidit ibi cum eis Willelmum Germani; Arnaldum Lapassa, fratrem dicti Dominici Lapassa; Poncium Barrau; Iordanum de Quiders; Poncium Rainardi; Poncium Gran; et Willelmum de Rozenge; et alios de quibus non recolit. Et omnes et ipse testis adoraverunt ibi dictos hereticos et audierunt predicationem eorum et pacem acceperunt ab eisdem hereticis. Et sunt VI anni vel circa VII.3

Item. Vidit apud Mansum in domo Willelmi Vital Bertrandum Martini et socium eius, hereticos. Et vidit ibi cum eis Raimundum Amelii, fratrem ipsius testis; Raimundum Dalamans iuvenem; et dictum Willelmum Vitalem et Seguram, uxorem eius. Et omnes et ipse testis adoraverunt ibi dictos hereticos et audierunt predicationem eorum. Et sunt X anni vel circa.

Item. Vidit apud Mansum in domo Bernardi de QuidersBertrandum Martini et socium eius. Et vidit ibi cum eis Bertrandum de Quiders, militem; et Bernardum de Quiders, fratrem eius; et Iordanum de Manso; et Bernardum de Manso; et Gualhardum de Manso; et Poncium Rainardi; et Willelmum Vitalem et Seguram,  [F°10r]  uxorem eius; et alios de quibus non recolit. Et omnes et ipse testis adoraverunt ibi dictos hereticos et audierunt predicationem eorum. Et sunt XII anni vel circa.

Item. Dixit se vidisse apud Mansum in domo Petri de Sancto Andrea qui alio nomine vocabatur  Cap de Porci Iohannem Cambitorem et socium eius, hereticos. Et vidit ibi cum eis Bernardum de Manso, militem; et Iordanum de Manso,  fratrem eius; et Garnerium seniorem; et Willelmi Garnerii, filium dicti Garnerii; et Petrum Gauta seniorem; et Petrum Amelii, fratrem ipsius testis; et alios plures usque ad XXX vel XL de quibus non recordatur. Et omnes et ipse testis adoraverunt ibi dictos hereticos et audierunt predicationem eorum et pacem acceperunt ab eis. Et sunt XII anni vel circa. Alibi nunquam vidit hereticos nisi captos.

Item. Dixit se  credidisse hereticos esse bonos homines et habere bonam fidem et esse veraces et amicos Dei et posse salvari per ipsos. Et  audivit loquentes quod Deus non fecerat visibilia, et quod baptismus aque nichil valet, et quod hostia sacrata non est corpus Christi, et quod in matrimonio non est salus et quod mortui non resurgent. Et ipse testis credidit sicut  heretici dicebant. Et sunt XII anni quod primo credidit hereticos esse bonos et sunt V anni quod non credidit. Et fuit confessus fratri Ferrario apud Limosum et postea non vidit hereticos. Et abiuravit heresim et iuravit et cetera. Testes: qui in confessione Willelme Sicrese.

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Item. Year and day as before. The sworn witness Guallard Amelh said he saw at night near Lo Radel at Mas-Saintes-Puelles, Guilhem Vidal and Bernard Cap-de-Porc and their companions, heretics, and the witness saw with them there Guilhem German, Arnald Lapassa, brother of the aforesaid Dominic Lapassa, Pons Barrau, Jordan de Quiders, Pons Bernard, Pons Gran and Guilhem de Rosengue and others whom he cannot recall. And everyone and the witness adored the heretics there and listened to their preaching and accepted blessings of peace from the same heretics. This was between 5 and 7 years ago.

Item. The witness saw Bertrand Marti and his companion, heretics, in the house of Guilhem Vidal at Mas-Saintes-Puelles, and the witness saw there with them Bernard Amelh, brother of the witness, Raimund Aleman junior, and the aforesaid William Vidal and his wife Segura. And everyone and the witness adored the heretics there and listened to their preaching, and this was about 10 years ago.

Item. The witness saw at Mas-Saintes-Puelles, in the house of Bernard de Quiders, Bertrand Marti and his heretic companions, and the witness saw there with them Bertrand de Quiders, knight, and his brother Bernard de Quiders, Jordan del Mas, Bernard del Mas senior, Galhard del Mas, Pons Rainart, Guilhem Vidal and his wife Segura, and others whom he did not recall. And everyone and the witness adored the aforesaid heretics there and listened to their preaching. This was about 12 years ago.

Item. The witness said he saw Johan Cambiaire and his companion, heretics, at Mas-Saintes-Puelles, in the house of Peire Saint-Andrea - called by another name Cap-de-Porc - and the witness saw there with them Bernard del Mas, knight, and his brother Jordan del Mas, and Garnier senior and Guilhem Garnier, son of said Garnier senior and Peire Gauta senior and the witness' brother Peire Amelh, and 30 to 40 others whom he did not recall. Everyone and the witness adored the heretics there and listened to their preaching, and accepted blessings of peace from them. This was about 12 years ago. Thereafter the witness did not see any heretics except as prisoners.

Item. The witness said he believed the heretics to be good men and to have good faith and to be true and friends of God and that one could be saved by them, and he heard them say that God did not make visible things and that baptism by water was invalid and that the holy host is not the body of Christ and that there is no salvation in marriage and the dead are not resurrected, and the witness believed as the heretics said. It was 12 years ago the the witness first believed the heretics to be good men and it was 5 years ago that he stopped believing such. This was confessed to brother Ferrier at Limoux and thereafter the witness has [not] seen any heretics. And he abjured heresy and swore, etc. Witnesses as above.