MS609-0011 : Deposition - W. DonatMS609-0011 : Déposition - W. Donat

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cruces Item. Anno die quo supra.1W. Donat testis iuratus dixit quod ipse testis et Willelmus de Canastiverunt apud Laurac  et duxerunt inde W. B. et socium eius, hereticos, apud Mansum et introduxerunt eos in domum Willelmi de Malhorgas , avunculi dicti Willelmi de Canast. Et ipse Willelmus de Malhorgas infirmabatur tunc, et dicti heretici hereticaverunt tunc dictum Willelmum. Et interfuerunt dicte hereticationi ipsi et Willelmus de Canast predictus; et Willelmus de Canast senior,  [F°2r]   avunculus ipsius testis; et Durandus Vadis; Willelma Sicresa, filiastra dicti hereticati. Et omnes et ipse testis adoraverunt ibi dictos hereticos. Et sunt XIX anni vel circa.

Item. Dixit quod vidit hereticos publice stantes in terra. Alibi non vidit hereticos. Et sunt XXX anni vel circa.

Item. Dixit quod credidit hereticos esse  bonos et habere bonam fidem et esse veraces et amicos Dei. Et audivit hereticos dicentes quod deus non visibilia fecit, et quod baptismus aque nichil valet, et quod hostia sacrata non est corpus Christi, et quod in matrimonio non est salus, et quod mortui non resurgent. Et ipse testis credidit tunc sicut ipsi dicebant. Et sunt XXX anni quod primo credidit hereticos et sunt XIX anni quod ultimo dimisit. Et fuit confessus fratri Ferrerio, sed non habuit ab ipso penitentiam neque vidit hereticos XIX anni sunt. Et abiuravit heresim et iuravit et cetera. Testes: predicti.

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crossesItem. Year and day as above, the sworn witness W. Donat said that he and Guilhem Canast-Bru went to Laurac and led W. B. and his companion, heretics, to Mas-Saintes-Puelles and brought them to the house of Guilhem, uncle of said Guilhem Canast-Bru. Guilhem Malhorga was there sick, and the aforesaid heretics then hereticated said Guilhem. Present at the heretication were the witness himself, the aforementioned Guilhem Canast-Bru; Guilhem Canast senior, uncle of the witness; Durand Vadis; Guilhelma Sicre, daughter-in-law of the hereticated. And everyone and the witness adored the aforesaid heretics. This was about 19 years ago.

Item. The witness said that he saw heretics standing in open public. He did not see the heretics elsewhere and this was about 30 years ago.

Item. The witness said that he believed the heretics to be good men, and to have good faith, and were true and friends of God. He heard heretics say that God did not make visible things, and that baptism by water is meaningless, that the holy host is not the body of Christ, that there is no salvation in marriage, that there is no resurrection from death, and the witness believed then what they said. It was 30 years ago that he first believed the heretics and it was 19 years ago that he left such belief behind. This was confessed to brother Ferrier but he did not have penance and the witness has not seen heretics in 19 years. He abjured heresy and swore, etc. Witnesses: as stated before.