MS609-0002 : Deposition - Guilhem de RosengueMS609-0002 : Déposition - Guilhem de Rosengue

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 Item. Anno et die quo supra1. Willelmus de Rozeugue testis iuratus dixit quod ad instanciam Arnaldi Godalhipse testis et Raimundus Guarnier duxerunt Willelmum Vitalis et socium eius, hereticos, de Porta de Mal Cosseil usque ad  Puybusqua et tradiderunt dictos hereticos Petro Cap de Porc. Sed ipse testis non adoravit dictos hereticos nec vidit alios adorare. Et sunt VI anni vel circa.

Item. Vidit Willelmum Vitalis et socium eis hereticos in loco qui dicitur Lo Radel, et vidit ibi cum eis Jordanum de Quiders; Poncium Barrau; et Arnaldum Garnier; et Poncium, fratrem dicti Arnaldi; et Poncium Gauta; Guallardum Amelh; et Poncium Rainart; et plures alios de quibus non recolat. Et sunt VI anni vel circa.

Item. Vidit in domo Petri  Cap de Porc pluries B. Johannis, Petrum Fabri, hereticos. Et vidit ibi cum eis Raimundum den Amiel; Poncium Rainardi; Willelmum  Amelh de Solha; Guaillardum Amelh; et pluresa alios de quibus non recolit. Et omnes et ipse testis adoravit pluries dictos hereticos. Et sunt VII anni vel circa.

Item. Dixit quod quando erat puer vidit hereticos publice stantes apud Mirapeis. Alibi non vidit hereticos quod recolat.

Item. Dixit quod credidit hereticos esse bonos et habere bonam fidem et esse veraces et amicos Dei. Et audivit hereticos dicentes quod deus non fecerat visibilia et quod in matrimonio non est salus,  et ipse testis credidit sicit ipsi dicebant. De hostia sacrata, de baptismo, de resurrecione carnis, non audivit hereticos loquentes. Et sunt XII anni quod primo credidit hereticos esse bonos et sunt IIIIor anni ultimo dimsit illam credulitatem. Et sunt confessus fratri Willelmo Arnaldi et fratri Ferrario inquisitorem. Sed non habuit penitentiam, et postea non vidit hereticos.

Item. Vidit B. de Planis et socium eius, hereticos, in domo de Cap de Porc, et vidit ibi Arnaldum de Rozengue, patrem eius testis, et ambo audierunt predicationem hereticorum et adoraverunt eos. Et sunt IIIIor anni. Et abiuravit heresim et iuravit, et cetera.  Testes: predicti.

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Item. Year and day as above. The sworn witness Guilhem de Rosengue said that at the request of Arnald Godalh the witness himself and Bernard Garnier lead Guilhem Vidal and his companion, heretics, from the gates of Mal Cosseil to Puybusque, and delivered said heretics to Peire Cap-de-Porc. But the witness did not adore said heretics nor did he see others adore. This was about 6 years ago.

Item. The witness saw Guilhem Vidal and his companions, heretics, in a place called Lo Radel and he saw there with them Jordan de Quiders, Pons Barrau, Arnald Garnier and Pons the brother of said Arnald, Pons Gauta, Guallard Amelh, Pons Rainart, and many others whom he cannot recall. This was about 6 years ago.

Item. The witness saw B. Johan and Peire Faure, heretics, many times in the home of Peire Cap-de-Porc, and saw with them Bernard Amelh, Pons Rainart, W. Amelh de Solha, Guallard Amelh and many others whom he cannot recall. The witness and all adored the said heretics many times. This was about 7 years ago.

Item. The witness said that when he was a boy he saw heretics standing in public near Mirepoix. He did not remember seeing heretics otherwise.

Item. The witness said that he believed the heretics to be good, and have good faith, and were true, and were friends of God. He heard heretics say that God did not make visible things and that there is no salvation in marriage, and the witness himself believed as they said. He did not hear the heretics speak of the holy host, of baptism, or of resurrection. it was about 12 years ago that he first believed the heretics to be good and about 4 years ago that he left those beliefs behind. And this was confessed to brother Guilhem Arnald and brother Ferrier, inquisitors, but no penance was given, and thereafter the witness did not see heretics.

Item. The witness saw B. de Planis and his companions, heretics, in the home of the Cap-de-Porcs, and saw with them the witness' father Arnald de Rosengue, and both listened to the said heretics' preaching and adored them. This was 4 years ago. He abjured heresy and swore, etc. Witnesses: as stated above.